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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@myrealbox.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	mingo@elte.hu, torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@osdl.org, arjanv@redhat.com, suresh.b.siddha@intel.com,
	jun.nakajima@intel.com
Subject: Re: [announce] [patch] NX (No eXecute) support for x86,   2.6.7-rc2-bk2
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 01:08:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040603230834.GF868@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40BFADE5.9040506@myrealbox.com>

On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 04:01:57PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> Andi Kleen wrote:
> >On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 14:44:48 +0200
> >Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>- in exec.c, since address-space executability is a security-relevant
> >>item, we must clear the personality when we exec a setuid binary. I
> >>believe this is also a (small) security robustness fix for current
> >>64-bit architectures.
> >
> >
> >I'm not sure I like that. This means I cannot earily force an i386 uname 
> >or 3GB address space on suid programs anymore on x86-64.
> >
> >While in theory it could be a small security problem I think the utility
> >is much greater.
> >
> >It's hard to see how setting NX could cause a security hole. The program
> >may crash, but it is unlikely to be exploitable.
> 
> The whole point of NX, though, is that it prevents certain classes of 
> exploits.  If a setuid binary is vulnerable to one of these, then Ingo's 
> patch "fixes" it.  Your approach breaks that.

Good point.

But that only applies to the NX personality bit. For the uname emulation
it is not an issue.

So maybe the dropping on exec should only zero a few selected 
personality bits, but not all.

> 
> I don't like Ingo's fix either, though.  At least it should check 
> CAP_PTRACE or some such.  A better fix would be for LSM to pass down a flag 
> indicating a change of security context.  I'll throw that in to my 
> caps/apply_creds cleanup, in case that ever gets applied.

Don't think we should require an LSM module for that. That's 
far overkill.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-03 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-02 20:50 [announce] [patch] NX (No eXecute) support for x86, 2.6.7-rc2-bk2 Ingo Molnar
2004-06-02 21:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-02 21:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-02 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 21:17   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-02 21:31     ` Doug McNaught
2004-06-08  8:46       ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-06-03  1:12     ` Joel Becker
2004-06-03  1:27       ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-03  6:24       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-03 20:37     ` jlnance
2004-06-03  7:21   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03 12:44     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03 15:54       ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-03 23:01         ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-03 23:08           ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2004-06-03 23:54             ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-04  0:05               ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-04  9:25             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-04 15:26               ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-04 15:36                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-04 15:41                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-04 15:47                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-04 15:51                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-04 16:02                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-04 16:13                           ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-04 16:37                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-04 16:40                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-04 17:27                                 ` David Mosberger
2004-06-04 17:30                                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-08  9:07                             ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-06-08  9:14                               ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-08  9:19                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-04 16:51                           ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-06-08 17:15                             ` Bill Davidsen
2004-06-04 18:11                         ` Gerhard Mack
2004-06-04 18:12                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-04 16:06                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-04 17:20                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-04 17:22                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-04 17:32                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03 19:24       ` Suresh Siddha
2004-06-03 20:37         ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-03 22:58           ` Suresh Siddha
2004-06-03 23:06             ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-04  9:30             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03 12:57     ` Brian Gerst
2004-06-04  9:39       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-04 10:41         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-04 10:48           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-03 16:21     ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-06-03 19:30   ` Kurt Garloff
2004-06-02 21:43 ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-03  0:11 ` Rusty Russell
2004-06-03  0:17   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-03  7:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03  8:47   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03  8:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-04  0:04     ` Rusty Russell
2004-06-03  9:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-03 14:36 ` Gerhard Mack
2004-06-03 16:22   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-04  9:36   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-06-04 11:59     ` Stephen Wille Padnos
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     [not found]   ` <22Wf4-5Xv-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-06-03  9:43     ` Andi Kleen
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2004-06-04 18:01 Nakajima, Jun

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