From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
"Eric D. Mudama" <edmudama@mail.bounceswoosh.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>,
Ed Tomlinson <edt@aei.ca>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: flush cache range proposal (was Re: ide errors in 7-rc1-mm1 and later)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:58:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040611165812.GD4309@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040611165224.GA11945@bounceswoosh.org>
On Fri, Jun 11 2004, Eric D. Mudama wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 11 at 12:31, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> >If queued-FUA is out of the question, this seems quite reasonable. It
> >appears to achieve the commit-block semantics described for barrier
> >operation, AFAICS.
>
> Queued FUA shouldn't be out of the question.
>
> However, Queued FUA requires waiting for the queue to drain before
> sending more commands, since a pair of queued FUA commands doesn't
> guarantee the ordering of those two commands, which may or may not be
> acceptable semantics.
You can continue building and reordering requests behind the QUEUED_FUA
write(s).
> The barrier operation is basically a queueing-friendly flush+FUA,
> which may be better... it lets the driver keep the queue in the drive
That's exactly correct.
> full, and also allows writes other than the commit block to not be
> done as FUA operations, which is potentially faster. THe bigger the
> ratio of data to commit block, the better the performance would be
> with a barrier operation vs a purely queued FUA workload.
Just looking at how pre/write/post flush performs and I don't think it
will be that bad (it's already quite good). Depends on how sync
intensive the workload is of course.
But as long as it's the fastest possible implementation (and I think it
is), then arguing about performance is futile imo. Correctness comes
first.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-11 17:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-27 20:24 [2.6.7-rc1-mm1] cant mount reiserfs using -o barrier=flush Günther Persoons
2004-05-27 23:28 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-05-28 11:54 ` Gunther Persoons
2004-05-28 12:18 ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-28 21:39 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-05-29 8:30 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 2:07 ` ide errors in 7-rc1-mm1 and later Ed Tomlinson
2004-06-04 2:31 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-04 9:42 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 11:22 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-06-04 11:32 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 11:45 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 11:57 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-04 12:01 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 12:38 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-04 12:47 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 13:34 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-04 15:23 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 16:14 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-05 9:18 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-09 21:52 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-09 22:06 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-09 23:38 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-09 23:50 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-10 0:20 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10 0:37 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-10 1:02 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10 0:28 ` Chris Mason
2004-06-10 0:38 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-10 0:45 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10 15:14 ` Chris Mason
2004-06-10 15:15 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-10 1:05 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10 6:27 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-10 6:26 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 17:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-05 9:24 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-06 16:18 ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-06-06 20:46 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-10 0:38 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10 6:11 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-10 16:41 ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-06-10 17:50 ` flush cache range proposal (was Re: ide errors in 7-rc1-mm1 and later) Jeff Garzik
2004-06-10 18:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-10 20:33 ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-06-11 16:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-11 7:55 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-11 16:17 ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-06-11 16:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-11 16:52 ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-06-11 16:58 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2004-06-11 16:54 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-11 16:50 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-11 16:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-11 6:10 ` Stuart Young
2004-06-26 8:31 ` ide errors in 7-rc1-mm1 and later Andre Hedrick
2004-06-26 8:58 ` Andre Hedrick
2004-06-28 18:18 ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-07-02 8:29 ` Jens Axboe
2004-07-07 5:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-04 11:48 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-09 23:44 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-06-09 23:52 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-10 0:17 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-06-10 6:29 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-14 21:42 ` Ed Tomlinson
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