From: Oleg Drokin <green@linuxhacker.ru>
To: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@hist.no>
Cc: Petter Larsen <pla@morecom.no>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ext3 <ext3-users@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: mode data=journal in ext3. Is it safe to use?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:15:20 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040618101520.GA2389@linuxhacker.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40D2B8C3.8090908@hist.no>
Hello!
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 11:41:23AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:
> >If you can reproduce a garbage in files in ordered journal mode, that
> >would be a
> >bug that should be fixed then.
> Hard to _produce_, but consider:
> 1. Write data to an existing file
> 2. Sync metadata
> 3. data is forced out because of ordered mode, a powerout crash happens
> in the middle of this. The file now has a block with a mix of new
> and old,
Well, this is not much worse than having two blocks, one from old file
and one from new after a crash.
> it may even be unreadable due to a bad sector checksum.
Well, in data journaled mode you may get unreadable journal, is this much
better? (Also original question was about CF flash media, so no bad sector
problems I presume).
> With data journalling you either get the old data (because the crash
> happened
> during a write to the journal) or new data (crash happened during data
> write,
Well, while with data journaling mode your granularity is one block,
with data ordered it is one sector.
> the data is restored from the good copy in the journal.)
Bye,
Oleg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-18 10:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <40FB8221D224C44393B0549DDB7A5CE83E31B1@tor.lokal.lan>
2004-06-15 18:09 ` mode data=journal in ext3. Is it safe to use? Petter Larsen
2004-06-15 18:20 ` Eugene Crosser
2004-06-17 8:36 ` Petter Larsen
2004-06-16 7:34 ` Oleg Drokin
2004-06-17 8:27 ` Petter Larsen
2004-06-17 17:09 ` Oleg Drokin
2004-06-18 9:41 ` Helge Hafting
2004-06-18 10:15 ` Oleg Drokin [this message]
2004-06-18 11:30 ` Paulo Marques
2004-06-18 12:05 ` Oleg Drokin
2004-06-21 17:42 ` mode data=journal in ext3. Is it safe to use? Conclusion Petter Larsen
2004-06-19 19:16 ` mode data=journal in ext3. Is it safe to use? Bernd Eckenfels
2004-06-16 15:49 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-17 0:51 ` Daniel Pittman
2004-06-17 3:02 ` Tim Connors
2004-06-17 5:35 ` Hans Reiser
2004-06-17 10:08 ` Dave Jones
2004-06-17 16:55 ` Hans Reiser
2004-06-17 8:29 ` Petter Larsen
2004-06-17 19:30 ` Daniel Egger
[not found] ` <87wu26mto2.fsf@enki.rimspace.net>
2004-06-27 14:17 ` Petter Larsen
2004-06-28 0:22 ` Daniel Pittman
[not found] ` <1805.216.148.213.196.1087426691.squirrel@www.code-visions.com>
2004-06-17 11:23 ` Petter Larsen
2004-06-17 16:26 ` Andreas Dilger
2004-06-17 14:56 Ken Ryan
2004-06-17 16:06 ` Timothy Miller
2004-06-17 17:20 ` Hans Reiser
2004-06-17 19:15 ` Ken Ryan
2004-06-18 6:18 ` Hans Reiser
2004-06-17 19:43 ` Daniel Egger
2004-06-17 19:59 ` Ken Ryan
2004-06-19 14:49 ` Petter Larsen
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