From: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>
To: Martin Schlemmer <azarah@nosferatu.za.org>
Cc: arjanv@redhat.com, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing Lists <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Kai Germaschewski <kai@germaschewski.name>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] kbuild updates
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:26:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200406210026.43988.agruen@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1087768362.14794.53.camel@nosferatu.lan>
On Sunday 20 June 2004 23:52, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 23:42, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > > Given, but to 'use' the kbuild infrastructure, you must still call it
> > > via:
> > >
> > > make -C _path_to_sources M=`pwd`
> >
> > I see no problem with requiring this though; requiring a correct
> > makefile is perfectly fine with me, and this is the only and documented
> > way for 2.6 already.
> > (And it's also the only way to build modules against Fedora Core 2
> > kernels by the way)
>
> I did not mean I have a problem with that. Say you take svgalib, and
> you want the build system to automatically compile the kernel module,
> you might do something like:
>
> ---
> build_2_6_module:
> @make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`PWD`
> ---
>
> will break with proposed patch ...
No it won't.
You always need to figure out $(objtree) to build external modules, with or
without a separate output directory. Many modules don't need to know
$(srctree) explicitly at all.
In case you want to do something depending on the sources/confguration, there
are two ways:
- follow the new source symlink,
- let kbuild take you to $(srctree): When the makefile in the M directory
is included, the current working directory is $(srctree). besides, all the
usual variables like $(srctree), $(objtree), CONFIG_* variables, etc. are
all available. That's a good time to check for features, etc.
> And the point I wanted to make was that AFIAK
> '/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build' is an interface to figure
> out where the _sources_ for the current running kernel are
> located.
That's a misconception. At the minimum, you want to be able to build the
module. Directly messing with the sources is usually wrong. I know external
module authors like to do that nevertheless; in a few cases it's actually
useful. Most of the time it really is not. Most external modules have totally
braindead/broken makefiles.
Regards,
--
Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>
SUSE Labs, SUSE LINUX AG
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-20 22:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-20 21:19 [PATCH 0/2] kbuild updates Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 21:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] kbuil: add deb-pkg target Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 21:22 ` [PATCH 0/2] kbuild updates Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 21:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] kbuild: Improved external module support Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 21:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-20 21:31 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-20 21:45 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 21:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-21 1:41 ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-21 9:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-06-21 21:57 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 21:30 ` [PATCH 0/2] kbuild updates Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-20 21:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-20 21:52 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-20 22:26 ` Andreas Gruenbacher [this message]
2004-06-20 22:39 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-20 23:51 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2004-06-21 22:31 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-21 22:33 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-21 22:50 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2004-06-21 23:03 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 22:03 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 22:16 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-20 22:26 ` Alistair John Strachan
2004-06-20 22:54 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-21 22:46 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-21 22:33 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-21 22:29 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-21 22:56 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2004-06-20 22:18 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 22:25 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-21 22:48 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-22 5:29 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-22 9:20 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2004-06-22 18:23 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-22 18:44 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-21 0:29 ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-21 1:27 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2004-06-21 6:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-21 8:02 ` Hannu Savolainen
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2004-06-20 22:36 ` Pascal Schmidt
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2004-06-22 1:39 ` Peter Chubb
2004-06-22 5:20 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-22 8:36 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
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