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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Jeremy <jeremy.katz@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Linus <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	linuxppc64-dev@lists.linuxppc.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PPC64 iSeries viodasd proc file
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:04:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040621060435.GA28384@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cb5afee1040620125272ab9f06@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:52:33PM -0400, Jeremy wrote:
> > Agreed.  And the old viodasd reason was rejected exactly because it was
> > such a f***ing mess.
> 
> The argument could be made that sysfs is similarly a f***ing mess and
> that instead of solving problems, it creates more.

It does?  Have you brought this up to the sysfs / kobject / driver model
authors?  I think they would be open to any critiques of the current
code, especially if such critique contains patches.

> The mess of symlinks present there is a disaster and disgusting for
> anyone who wants to actually write clean probing code.

What do you mean by this.  Any examples?

> Also, things in sysfs aren't exactly stable enough to count on as a
> dependable interface, but that's something the kernel has never
> reliably exported to userspace.

Why isn't sysfs stable enough?  You can find any driver instantly.  And
any device bound to that driver in a stable and repeatable manner.

So, give me specific examples, or stop ranting for no reason.

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-06-21  6:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-18  6:54 [PATCH] PPC64 iSeries viodasd proc file Stephen Rothwell
2004-06-18 15:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-18 15:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-20 19:52     ` Jeremy
2004-06-20 21:11       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-21  6:04       ` Greg KH [this message]
     [not found]         ` <cb5afee10406210914451dc6@mail.gmail.com>
2004-06-23 21:15           ` Jeremy Katz
2004-06-23 21:45             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-23 22:03             ` Greg KH
2004-06-24  0:38               ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-24 20:59                 ` Greg KH
2004-06-24 21:25                   ` Jeff Garzik
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-23 23:54 Stephen Rothwell
2004-06-23 23:55 ` Greg KH

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