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From: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>
To: Jari Ruusu <jariruusu@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing Lists <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] kbuild updates
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:20:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200406221120.18088.agruen@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40D7C3D3.30DB5F72@users.sourceforge.net>

On Tuesday 22 June 2004 07:29, Jari Ruusu wrote:
> Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 12:03:19AM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> > > If I get just one good example I will go for the object directory, but
> > > what I have seen so far is whining - no examples.
> >
> > Now I recall why I did not like the object directory.
> > I will break all modules using the kbuild infrastructure!
>
> No it does not. If 'export KBUILD_OUTPUT=/foo' command is used before
> kernel is built, it is not any more difficult to compile external modules
> with that same env variable defined.

This clearly is not an option. We want the most trivial way of building 
external modules to continue working, no matter whether the kernel is using a 
separate output directory or not; with Sam's patch we get that:

	make -C /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build M=$(pwd)

We also want to build modules for other configurations; this is as simple as 
passing another path in -C. For example, in the SUSE setup this would give 
you a module for an i386 bigsmp kernel:

	make -C /usr/scc/linux-obj/i386/bigsmp M=$(pwd)

The environment variable proposal is worthless: Where on earth should that 
environment variable come from?

> [cut the crap]
>
> In which case Andrew and Linus should consider revoking your kbuild
> maintainer status. I moved Andrew and Linus from CC list to TO list in hope
> to get this small question answered:
>
> Andrew, Linus,
> How about choosing someone else less destructive to maintain kbuild?

Jari, you have shown that you still didn't get it. Trying harder instead of 
badmouthing random people might help.

Regards,
-- 
Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>
SUSE Labs, SUSE LINUX AG

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-22  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-20 21:19 [PATCH 0/2] kbuild updates Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 21:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] kbuil: add deb-pkg target Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 21:22 ` [PATCH 0/2] kbuild updates Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 21:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] kbuild: Improved external module support Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 21:25   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-20 21:31     ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-20 21:45     ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 21:38       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-21  1:41   ` Petr Vandrovec
2004-06-21  9:01   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-06-21 21:57     ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 21:30 ` [PATCH 0/2] kbuild updates Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-20 21:42   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-20 21:52     ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-20 22:26       ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2004-06-20 22:39         ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-20 23:51           ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2004-06-21 22:31             ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-21 22:33               ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-21 22:50               ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2004-06-21 23:03                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 22:03   ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 22:16     ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-20 22:26       ` Alistair John Strachan
2004-06-20 22:54         ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-21 22:46           ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-21 22:33         ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-21 22:29           ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-21 22:56             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2004-06-20 22:18     ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-20 22:25       ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-21 22:48         ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-22  5:29       ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-22  9:20         ` Andreas Gruenbacher [this message]
2004-06-22 18:23           ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-22 18:44         ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-21  0:29     ` Hannu Savolainen
2004-06-21  1:27       ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2004-06-21  6:47       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-21  8:02         ` Hannu Savolainen
     [not found] <29hJN-3Jl-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <29icN-42R-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <29imu-4ad-31@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <29iwc-4g7-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-06-20 22:36       ` Pascal Schmidt
     [not found] <539000871@toto.iv>
2004-06-22  1:39 ` Peter Chubb
2004-06-22  5:20   ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-22  8:36     ` Andreas Gruenbacher

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