From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [oom]: [0/4] fix OOM deadlock running OAST
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:15:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040624021527.GQ1552@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040623190150.4a182cfc.akpm@osdl.org>
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 07:01:50PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Well let's see how the patch ends up looking.
> I have bad feelings about the overcommit logic - several times we have
> accidentally noticed (and fixed) gross inaccuracies in it, and I am sure
> others remain.
> I am not aware of anyone getting down and explicitly testing it in lots of
> different scenarios (including mlock), and perhaps it gets inaccurate when
> zone fallbacks are involved.
> If you're prepared to undertake that level of thinking and coverage testing
> and fix up the fallout, that would certainly be good. If you think it's
> worth the effort, and, again, depending upon the performance and ickiness
> impact of the patches.
This has some importance to database users, as orderly shutdown of
userspace is required for data integrity there in a similar fashion as
it is for the kernel to undergo orderly shutdown so as not to corrupt
filesystems (in both cases, some pains are taken to recover from these
kinds of situations as best as possible, however, neither's recovery is
infallible). So OOM kills during client overloads are highly undesirable.
I'll take this as a more general directive to audit and clean up the
non-overcommit accounting, which I don't have an issue with taking on,
before moving on to refining the semantics.
I'll do this up as a series of small fixes and so on. mlock coverage is
a certainty given database usage patterns and my current position.
-- wli
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-24 2:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-23 21:07 [oom]: [0/4] fix OOM deadlock running OAST William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-23 21:07 ` [oom]: [1/4] add __GFP_WIRED to pinned allocations William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-23 21:07 ` [oom]: [2/4] add nr_wired to page_state William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-23 21:07 ` [oom]: [3/4] track wired pages on a per-zone basis William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-23 21:07 ` [oom]: [4/4] check __GFP_WIRED in out_of_memory() William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-23 21:29 ` [oom]: [3/4] track wired pages on a per-zone basis William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-23 22:15 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-23 22:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-23 22:05 ` [oom]: [1/4] add __GFP_WIRED to pinned allocations Andrew Morton
2004-06-23 22:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-23 22:36 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-23 22:16 ` [oom]: [0/4] fix OOM deadlock running OAST Andrew Morton
2004-06-23 22:31 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-23 22:37 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-23 23:07 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-23 23:38 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-24 0:03 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 0:18 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-24 0:26 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 0:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 1:07 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-24 1:24 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 1:52 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 2:01 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-24 2:15 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-06-24 14:16 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-06-24 15:18 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 15:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 15:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 16:55 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-06-25 15:18 ` Rik van Riel
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