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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Terence Ripperda <tripperda@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>,
	arjanv@redhat.com, Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
	discuss@x86-64.org, tiwai@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [discuss] Re: 32-bit dma allocations on 64-bit platforms
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:01:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040624150131.GA8085@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040624143927.GH983@hygelac>

On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 09:39:27AM -0500, Terence Ripperda wrote:
> but even if all PCI-X and PCI-E devices properly addressed the full
> 64-bits, legacy 32-bit PCI devices can be plugged into the motherboards as
> well. my Intel em64t boards have mostly PCI-X, but 1 PCI slot and my amd
> x86_64 have all PCI slots (aside from the main PCI-E slot).

For the older AGP devices you can always map the data through the AGP
aperture, no ? (It also has a size limit, but that can be usually
increased in the BIOS setup) 

This won't work for graphic cards put into PCI slots, but these
can probably tolerate some performance degradation.

For AMD all PCI IO can be done through the aperture anyways, only
Intel is more crippled in this regard.

> also, at least one motherboard manufacturer claims PCI-E + AGP, but the AGP
> is really just an AGP form-factor slot on the PCI bus.

With no aperture I guess? 

-Andi


  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-24 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <2akPm-16l-65@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-06-23 21:46 ` 32-bit dma allocations on 64-bit platforms Andi Kleen
2004-06-24  6:18   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-24 10:33     ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-24 13:48     ` Jesse Barnes
2004-06-24 14:39       ` Terence Ripperda
2004-06-24 15:01         ` Andi Kleen [this message]
     [not found] <m3acyu6pwd.fsf@averell.firstfloor.org>
     [not found] ` <20040623213643.GB32456@hygelac>
2004-06-23 23:46   ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-24 11:13     ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-24 11:29       ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2004-06-24 14:36         ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-24 14:42           ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-24 14:58             ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-24 15:29               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 15:48                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-24 16:52                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 16:56                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 17:32                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 17:38                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 18:02                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 18:13                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 18:27                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 18:50                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 21:54                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-24 22:08                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 22:45                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 22:51                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 23:09                               ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-24 23:15                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-25  6:16                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-25  2:39                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-25  2:47                                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-25  3:19                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 22:11                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-24 23:09                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-25  1:17                             ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-25  3:11                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 22:21                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 22:36                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-24 23:15                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 22:37                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 22:40                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 23:21                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 23:45                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 17:39                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 17:53                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 18:07                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 18:29                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 16:04                 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-24 17:16                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 18:33                     ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-24 18:44                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-25 15:50                         ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-25 17:30                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-25 17:39                             ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-25 17:45                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 15:44     ` Terence Ripperda
2004-06-24 16:15       ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2004-06-24 17:22         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 22:28         ` Terence Ripperda

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