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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: andrea@suse.de, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, tiwai@suse.de,
	ak@suse.de, ak@muc.de, tripperda@nvidia.com, discuss@x86-64.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [discuss] Re: 32-bit dma allocations on 64-bit platforms
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:15:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040624231549.GT21066@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040624160945.69185c46.akpm@osdl.org>

On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 04:09:45PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> A testcase would be, on a 2G box:
> a) free up as much memory as you can
> b) write a 1.2G file to fill highmem with pagecache
> c) malloc(800M), bzero(), sleep
> d) swapoff -a
> You now have a box which has almost all of lowmem pinned in anonymous
> memory.  It'll limp along and go oom fairly easily.
> Another testcase would be:
> a) free up as much memory as you can
> b) write a 1.2G file to fill highmem with pagecache
> c) malloc(800M), mlock it
> You now have most of lowmem mlocked.

These are approximately identical to the testcases I had in mind, except
neither of these is truly specific to 2GB and can have the various magic
numbers calculated from sysconf() and/or meminfo.


On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 04:09:45PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> In both situations the machine is really sick.  Probably the most risky
> scenario is a swapless machine in which lots of lowmem is allocated to
> anonymous memory.
> It should be the case that increasing lower_zone_peotection will fix all
> the above.  If not, it needs fixing.
> So we're down the question "what should we default to at bootup".  I find
> it hard to justify defaulting to a mode where we're super-defensive against
> this sort of thing, simply because nobody seems to be hitting the problems.
> Distributors can, if the must, bump lower_zone_protection in initscripts,
> and it's presumably pretty simple to write a boot script which parses
> /proc/meminfo's MemTotal and SwapTotal lines, producing an appropriate
> lower_zone_protection setting.

I'm going to beat on this in short order, but will be indisposed for an
hour or two before that begins.

Thanks.


-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-24 23:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <m3acyu6pwd.fsf@averell.firstfloor.org>
     [not found] ` <20040623213643.GB32456@hygelac>
2004-06-23 23:46   ` 32-bit dma allocations on 64-bit platforms Andi Kleen
2004-06-24 11:13     ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-24 11:29       ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2004-06-24 14:36         ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-24 14:42           ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-24 14:58             ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-24 15:29               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 15:48                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-24 16:52                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 16:56                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 17:32                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 17:38                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 18:02                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 18:13                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 18:27                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 18:50                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 21:54                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-24 22:08                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 22:45                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 22:51                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 23:09                               ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-24 23:15                                 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-06-25  6:16                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-25  2:39                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-25  2:47                                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-25  3:19                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 22:11                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-24 23:09                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-25  1:17                             ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-25  3:11                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 22:21                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 22:36                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-24 23:15                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 22:37                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 22:40                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 23:21                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 23:45                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 17:39                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 17:53                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 18:07                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 18:29                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-24 16:04                 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-24 17:16                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 18:33                     ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-24 18:44                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-25 15:50                         ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-25 17:30                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-25 17:39                             ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-25 17:45                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 14:45       ` Terence Ripperda
2004-06-24 15:41         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 15:44     ` Terence Ripperda
2004-06-24 16:15       ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2004-06-24 17:22         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-24 22:28         ` Terence Ripperda
2004-06-24 18:51       ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-26  4:58         ` David Mosberger
2004-06-24 13:48 Jesse Barnes
2004-06-24 14:39 ` Terence Ripperda
2004-06-24 15:01   ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen

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