From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: Scott Wood <scott@timesys.com>
Cc: oliver@neukum.org, zaitcev@redhat.com, greg@kroah.com,
arjanv@redhat.com, jgarzik@redhat.com, tburke@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stern@rowland.harvard.edu,
mdharm-usb@one-eyed-alien.net, david-b@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: drivers/block/ub.c
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:25:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040628132531.036281b0.davem@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040628141517.GA4311@yoda.timesys>
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:15:17 -0400
Scott Wood <scott@timesys.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 02:26:28PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
> > On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:42:21 +0200
> > Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org> wrote:
> >
> > > OK, then it shouldn't be used in this case. However, shouldn't we have
> > > an attribute like __nopadding__ which does exactly that?
> >
> > It would have the same effect. CPU structure layout rules don't pack
> > (or using other words, add padding) exactly in cases where it is
> > needed to obtain the necessary alignment.
>
> No, it wouldn't, as you could drop the assumption that the base of
> the struct can be misaligned. Thus, the compiler only needs to
> generate unaligned loads and stores for fields which are unaligned
> within the struct, which in this case would be none of them.
>
> While it's rather unlikely that a struct like this one would ever
> need packing, it would help those structs that do need it by reducing
> the number of fields subjected to unaligned loads and stores.
That's true. But if one were to propose such a feature to the gcc
guys, I know the first question they would ask. "If no padding of
the structure is needed, why are you specifying this new
__nopadding__ attribute?"
I think it's bad to just "smack this attribute onto any structure that
_MIGHT_ need it on some platform" I never do that in my drivers,
and they work on all platforms. For example, if you have a simple
DMA descriptor structure such as:
struct txd {
u32 dma_addr;
u32 length;
};
It is just total and utter madness to put a packed or the proposed
__nopadding__ attribute on that structure. Yet this seems to be
what was suggested now and at the beginning of this thread.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-28 20:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-26 20:06 drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-26 20:12 ` drivers/block/ub.c Matthew Dharm
2004-06-27 2:08 ` drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-27 3:30 ` drivers/block/ub.c Matthew Dharm
2004-07-12 0:10 ` [usb-storage] drivers/block/ub.c Pat LaVarre
2004-06-26 20:35 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-26 21:41 ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-26 21:56 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-26 22:07 ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-26 22:36 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-26 23:20 ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-27 4:31 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-27 6:34 ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-27 10:42 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-27 21:26 ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-28 14:15 ` drivers/block/ub.c Scott Wood
2004-06-28 20:25 ` David S. Miller [this message]
2004-06-28 20:48 ` drivers/block/ub.c Scott Wood
2004-06-28 20:58 ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-28 20:50 ` drivers/block/ub.c Matthew Dharm
2004-06-28 20:59 ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-28 21:01 ` drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-28 23:52 ` drivers/block/ub.c Matthew Dharm
2004-06-28 20:57 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-28 21:03 ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-28 21:18 ` drivers/block/ub.c Scott Wood
2004-06-28 22:22 ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-28 22:31 ` drivers/block/ub.c Scott Wood
2004-06-28 22:40 ` drivers/block/ub.c Roland Dreier
2004-06-29 1:54 ` drivers/block/ub.c Robert White
2004-06-29 2:15 ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-29 2:49 ` drivers/block/ub.c Robert White
2004-06-29 18:31 ` drivers/block/ub.c Andy Isaacson
2004-07-05 10:01 ` drivers/block/ub.c Roman Zippel
2004-06-29 7:12 ` drivers/block/ub.c Vojtech Pavlik
2004-06-29 1:39 ` drivers/block/ub.c Robert White
2004-06-29 17:02 ` drivers/block/ub.c Kurt Garloff
2004-06-26 22:54 ` drivers/block/ub.c Andries Brouwer
2004-06-26 22:59 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-26 23:08 ` drivers/block/ub.c Andries Brouwer
2004-06-27 5:04 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-27 14:08 ` drivers/block/ub.c Andries Brouwer
2004-06-27 14:24 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-27 15:19 ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27 15:45 ` drivers/block/ub.c Andries Brouwer
2004-06-28 23:58 ` drivers/block/ub.c Jeff Garzik
2004-06-28 0:10 ` drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-28 16:01 ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27 15:23 ` drivers/block/ub.c Andries Brouwer
2004-06-27 16:11 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-26 22:46 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-27 3:52 ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27 4:05 ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27 5:02 ` drivers/block/ub.c Greg KH
2004-06-27 15:23 ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27 20:29 ` drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-27 21:03 ` drivers/block/ub.c Matthew Dharm
2004-06-28 15:40 ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-28 16:42 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-28 19:50 ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27 5:35 ` drivers/block/ub.c Matthew Dharm
2004-06-27 15:28 ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27 22:56 ` drivers/block/ub.c David Brownell
2004-06-27 23:43 ` drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-28 15:05 ` drivers/block/ub.c David Brownell
2004-06-28 15:56 ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-28 16:23 ` drivers/block/ub.c David Brownell
2004-06-28 16:46 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-28 17:13 ` drivers/block/ub.c David Brownell
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2004-06-27 23:57 ` drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-29 11:05 ` drivers/block/ub.c Jeff Garzik
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