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From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: Scott Wood <scott@timesys.com>,
	oliver@neukum.org, zaitcev@redhat.com, greg@kroah.com,
	arjanv@redhat.com, jgarzik@redhat.com, tburke@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stern@rowland.harvard.edu,
	mdharm-usb@one-eyed-alien.net, david-b@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: drivers/block/ub.c
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:12:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040629071246.GA1206@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040628132531.036281b0.davem@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 01:25:31PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:15:17 -0400
> Scott Wood <scott@timesys.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 02:26:28PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
> > > On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:42:21 +0200
> > > Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > OK, then it shouldn't be used in this case. However, shouldn't we have
> > > > an attribute like __nopadding__ which does exactly that?
> > > 
> > > It would have the same effect.  CPU structure layout rules don't pack
> > > (or using other words, add padding) exactly in cases where it is
> > > needed to obtain the necessary alignment.
> > 
> > No, it wouldn't, as you could drop the assumption that the base of
> > the struct can be misaligned.  Thus, the compiler only needs to
> > generate unaligned loads and stores for fields which are unaligned
> > within the struct, which in this case would be none of them.
> > 
> > While it's rather unlikely that a struct like this one would ever
> > need packing, it would help those structs that do need it by reducing
> > the number of fields subjected to unaligned loads and stores.
> 
> That's true.  But if one were to propose such a feature to the gcc
> guys, I know the first question they would ask.  "If no padding of
> the structure is needed, why are you specifying this new
> __nopadding__ attribute?"

You may have a struct, which itself might 'need' padding somewhere
inside, however the structure start will always be aligned. Using
__nopadding__ you should be much better off than using __packed_ in this
case, because GCC can use the right aligned/nonaligned accesses for the
members of the structure, because it knows which will be aligned and
which not.

-- 
Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs, SuSE CR

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-06-29  7:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-26 20:06 drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-26 20:12 ` drivers/block/ub.c Matthew Dharm
2004-06-27  2:08   ` drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-27  3:30     ` drivers/block/ub.c Matthew Dharm
2004-07-12  0:10     ` [usb-storage] drivers/block/ub.c Pat LaVarre
2004-06-26 20:35 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-26 21:41   ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-26 21:56     ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-26 22:07       ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-26 22:36         ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-26 23:20           ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-27  4:31             ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-27  6:34               ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-27 10:42                 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-27 21:26                   ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-28 14:15                     ` drivers/block/ub.c Scott Wood
2004-06-28 20:25                       ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-28 20:48                         ` drivers/block/ub.c Scott Wood
2004-06-28 20:58                           ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-28 20:50                         ` drivers/block/ub.c Matthew Dharm
2004-06-28 20:59                           ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-28 21:01                           ` drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-28 23:52                             ` drivers/block/ub.c Matthew Dharm
2004-06-28 20:57                         ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-28 21:03                           ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-28 21:18                             ` drivers/block/ub.c Scott Wood
2004-06-28 22:22                               ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-28 22:31                                 ` drivers/block/ub.c Scott Wood
2004-06-28 22:40                                 ` drivers/block/ub.c Roland Dreier
2004-06-29  1:54                             ` drivers/block/ub.c Robert White
2004-06-29  2:15                               ` drivers/block/ub.c David S. Miller
2004-06-29  2:49                                 ` drivers/block/ub.c Robert White
2004-06-29 18:31                             ` drivers/block/ub.c Andy Isaacson
2004-07-05 10:01                             ` drivers/block/ub.c Roman Zippel
2004-06-29  7:12                         ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2004-06-29  1:39                     ` drivers/block/ub.c Robert White
2004-06-29 17:02                     ` drivers/block/ub.c Kurt Garloff
2004-06-26 22:54   ` drivers/block/ub.c Andries Brouwer
2004-06-26 22:59     ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-26 23:08       ` drivers/block/ub.c Andries Brouwer
2004-06-27  5:04         ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-27 14:08           ` drivers/block/ub.c Andries Brouwer
2004-06-27 14:24             ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-27 15:19               ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27 15:45                 ` drivers/block/ub.c Andries Brouwer
2004-06-28 23:58                   ` drivers/block/ub.c Jeff Garzik
2004-06-28  0:10                 ` drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-28 16:01                   ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27 15:23               ` drivers/block/ub.c Andries Brouwer
2004-06-27 16:11                 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-26 22:46 ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-27  3:52   ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27  4:05 ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27  5:02   ` drivers/block/ub.c Greg KH
2004-06-27 15:23     ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27 20:29       ` drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-27 21:03         ` drivers/block/ub.c Matthew Dharm
2004-06-28 15:40         ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-28 16:42           ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-28 19:50             ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27  5:35   ` drivers/block/ub.c Matthew Dharm
2004-06-27 15:28     ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-27 22:56 ` drivers/block/ub.c David Brownell
2004-06-27 23:43   ` drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-28 15:05     ` drivers/block/ub.c David Brownell
2004-06-28 15:56     ` drivers/block/ub.c Alan Stern
2004-06-28 16:23       ` drivers/block/ub.c David Brownell
2004-06-28 16:46         ` drivers/block/ub.c Oliver Neukum
2004-06-28 17:13           ` drivers/block/ub.c David Brownell
     [not found] ` <mailman.1088290201.14081.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2004-06-27 23:57   ` drivers/block/ub.c Pete Zaitcev
2004-06-29 11:05 ` drivers/block/ub.c Jeff Garzik

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