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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Ian Molton <spyro@f2s.com>, Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: A question about PROT_NONE on ARM and ARM26
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:38:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040630033841.GC21066@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040630024434.GA25064@mail.shareable.org>

On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 03:44:34AM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Apparently the difference between PAGE_NONE and PAGE_READONLY, in each
> case, is that PAGE_NONE is not readable from userspace but _is_
> readable from kernel space.
> Therefore all user accesses to a PROT_NONE page will cause a fault.
> My question is: if the _kernel_ reads a PROT_NONE page, will it fault?
> It looks likely to me.
> This means that calling write() with a PROT_NONE region would succeed,
> wouldn't it?
> If so, this is a bug.  A minor bug, perhaps, but nonetheless I wish to
> document it.
> I don't know if you would be able to rearrange the pte bits so that a
> PROT_NONE page is not accessible to the kernel either.  E.g. on i386
> this is done by making PROT_NONE not set the hardware's present bit
> but a different bit, and "pte_present()" tests both of those bits to
> test the virtual present bit.

It would be a bug if copy_to_user()/copy_from_user() failed to return
errors on attempted copies to/from areas with PROT_NONE protection.

I recommend writing a testcase and submitting it to LTP. I'll follow up
with an additional suggestion.

-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-30  3:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-30  2:44 A question about PROT_NONE on ARM and ARM26 Jamie Lokier
2004-06-30  3:38 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-07-01  3:26   ` Testing PROT_NONE and other protections, and a surprise Jamie Lokier
2004-07-01  3:35     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-01  4:01       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-01  3:44     ` Kyle Moffett
2004-07-01  4:11       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-01  4:59         ` Kyle Moffett
2004-07-01 12:39           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-01 14:43             ` [OT] " Kyle Moffett
2004-07-01 14:50               ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-01 15:01                 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-07-01 16:37                   ` Matt Mackall
2004-07-01 17:26               ` Michael Driscoll
2004-07-02  7:37               ` Gabriel Paubert
2004-07-01 12:52     ` Russell King
2004-07-01 14:26     ` Richard Curnow
2004-06-30  8:16 ` A question about PROT_NONE on ARM and ARM26 Russell King
2004-06-30 14:59   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-30 15:22     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-30 18:26     ` Russell King
2004-06-30 19:14       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-30 19:23         ` Russell King
2004-06-30 20:15           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-30 22:59             ` Russell King
2004-06-30 23:30               ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-30 23:48                 ` Ian Molton
2004-07-01  1:59                   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-01  1:05                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2004-07-01  1:50                   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-02 18:39                 ` Russell King
2004-07-01 15:27               ` Scott Wood
2004-07-01 23:53                 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-02 14:36                   ` Scott Wood

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