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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Ian Molton <spyro@f2s.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: A question about PROT_NONE on ARM and ARM26
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:15:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040630201546.GD31064@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040630202313.A1496@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

Russell King wrote:
> Trust me, it does.  Unless you fully understand how the MMU and domains
> work on ARM, you've little chance of working it out from the code.

Thanks, that's fine.  I just wanted you to confirm PROT_NONE works
with set_fs(KERNEL_DS), as it's not apparent from your earlier
description.  I don't need to know _how_ it works - I can read manuals
too - although you description was interesting.

> > Instead of comparing the address against TI_ADDR_LIMIT, compare it
> > against the hard-coded userspace limit.
> 
> Wrong.  That means that if userspace passes an address above the hard
> coded limit, we _WILL_ bypass all protections and access that memory.

No - it does check against TI_ADDR_LIMIT in the case that the address
is above the hard-coded limit, so prevents that.

The optimisation is valid on all architectures, actually, including
current ARM where it saves a few instructions in the common path.

Here's the potential improvement to current 32-bit ARM.  It's
4 instructions instead of 8 and one less load, in the common case:

__get_user_4:
	cmp	r0, #TASK_SIZE-4
4:	ldrlet	r1, [r0]
	movle	r0, #0
	movle	pc, lr
	bic	r1, sp, #0x1f00
	bic	r1, r1, #0x00ff
	ldr	r1, [r1, #TI_ADDR_LIMIT]
	sub	r1, r1, #4
	cmp	r0, r1
14:	ldrlet	r1, [r0]
	movle	r0, #0
	movle	pc, lr
	b	__get_user_bad

Finally, I think I see a bug in current ARM.  Shouldn't this use
ldrlet instead of ldrlst?  Think about accesses to addresses
TASK_SIZE-4 and 0xfffffffc.

	ldr	r1, [r1, #TI_ADDR_LIMIT]
	sub	r1, r1, #4
	cmp	r0, r1
4:	ldrlst	r1, [r0]

Thanks,
-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-30 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-30  2:44 A question about PROT_NONE on ARM and ARM26 Jamie Lokier
2004-06-30  3:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-01  3:26   ` Testing PROT_NONE and other protections, and a surprise Jamie Lokier
2004-07-01  3:35     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-01  4:01       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-01  3:44     ` Kyle Moffett
2004-07-01  4:11       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-01  4:59         ` Kyle Moffett
2004-07-01 12:39           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-01 14:43             ` [OT] " Kyle Moffett
2004-07-01 14:50               ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-01 15:01                 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-07-01 16:37                   ` Matt Mackall
2004-07-01 17:26               ` Michael Driscoll
2004-07-02  7:37               ` Gabriel Paubert
2004-07-01 12:52     ` Russell King
2004-07-01 14:26     ` Richard Curnow
2004-06-30  8:16 ` A question about PROT_NONE on ARM and ARM26 Russell King
2004-06-30 14:59   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-30 15:22     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-30 18:26     ` Russell King
2004-06-30 19:14       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-30 19:23         ` Russell King
2004-06-30 20:15           ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2004-06-30 22:59             ` Russell King
2004-06-30 23:30               ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-30 23:48                 ` Ian Molton
2004-07-01  1:59                   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-01  1:05                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2004-07-01  1:50                   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-02 18:39                 ` Russell King
2004-07-01 15:27               ` Scott Wood
2004-07-01 23:53                 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-02 14:36                   ` Scott Wood

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