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From: Andries Brouwer <Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl>
To: Szakacsits Szabolcs <szaka@sienet.hu>
Cc: "Patrick J. LoPresti" <patl@users.sourceforge.net>,
	bug-parted@gnu.org, "K.G." <k_guillaume@libertysurf.fr>,
	Steffen Winterfeldt <snwint@suse.de>, Thomas Fehr <fehr@suse.de>,
	Andries Brouwer <Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Restoring HDIO_GETGEO semantics (was: Re: workaround for BIOS / CHS stuff)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 19:04:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040702170410.GC25914@apps.cwi.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0407021528150.21499-100000@mlf.linux.rulez.org>

On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 06:17:53PM +0200, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote:

> Does anybody find the new HDIO_GETGEO semantic useful? Did it help
> _anything_? 

Yes. I do.

There was a steady stream of people reporting on geometry problems.
All these problems were caused by kernel guessing stuff.
If the kernel no longer volunteers a guess, then we no longer have
the situation that the guess can be wrong.

We lived in a world where things got more and more complicated
with programs guessing what values other programs might want
to satisfy a third program.

The new world is getting much simpler. Only the programs that need a value
have to invent it. Many of these can in fact do without. LILO survives
well without geometry information.

The only case I see where absolutely something is needed is the
case of partitioning an empty disk.
Telling the user at that point: "if you have no idea I'll use
H=255 S=63, that is very often correct, but note that if you also
want to use Windows on this disk it might be better to let Windows
partition first; also, enabling CONFIG_EDD might allow me to guess
what the BIOS uses" may be enough.

Andries

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-07-02 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <s5gwu1mwpus.fsf@patl=users.sf.net>
2004-07-02 16:17 ` [RFC] Restoring HDIO_GETGEO semantics (was: Re: workaround for BIOS / CHS stuff) Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-02 16:50   ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-02 18:28     ` dwm
2004-07-02 21:12       ` parted maintainership Andries Brouwer
2004-07-02 17:04   ` Andries Brouwer [this message]
2004-07-02 18:12     ` [RFC] Restoring HDIO_GETGEO semantics (was: Re: workaround for BIOS / CHS stuff) Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-02 18:45       ` Patrick J. LoPresti
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.60.0407022025200.28638@hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk>
2004-07-02 19:57           ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-07-03  0:17             ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-03  0:42               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-07-03  0:56                 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-03  1:57                   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-03 13:59                   ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-07-05 12:14                   ` Restoring HDIO_GETGEO semantics for 2.6 (was: Re: [RFC] Restoring HDIO_GETGEO semantics) Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-05 13:10                     ` Steffen Winterfeldt
2004-07-05 13:12                     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-05 13:13                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-07-05 14:00                       ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-05 19:05                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-07-05 21:08                           ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-05 21:52                             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-07-06  0:17                               ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-06  1:56                                 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-06 18:56                                   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-07  1:28                                     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-07 11:14                                       ` Roman Zippel
2004-07-07 11:51                                         ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-06  8:33                                 ` Steffen Winterfeldt
2004-07-05 18:09                       ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-05 18:58                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-07-03  3:00             ` [RFC] Restoring HDIO_GETGEO semantics (was: Re: workaround for BIOS / CHS stuff) Andrew Clausen
2004-07-02 23:55         ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-03 13:56           ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-07-03  2:54         ` Andrew Clausen
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.60.0407030843400.2415@hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk>
2004-07-03 12:44             ` Andrew Clausen
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.60.0407031535230.6149@hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk>
2004-07-03 15:02                 ` Andrew Clausen
2004-07-03 14:42           ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-07-03  1:35   ` Andrew Clausen
2004-07-03 12:33     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-03 14:15     ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-07-03 14:45       ` Andrew Clausen
2004-07-03 15:00         ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-07-03 20:12         ` Andries Brouwer

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