From: Andrew Clausen <clausen@gnu.org>
To: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: "Patrick J. LoPresti" <patl@users.sourceforge.net>,
Szakacsits Szabolcs <szaka@sienet.hu>,
Andries Brouwer <Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl>,
Steffen Winterfeldt <snwint@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Fehr <fehr@suse.de>,
bug-parted@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Restoring HDIO_GETGEO semantics (was: Re: workaround for BIOS / CHS stuff)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 22:44:35 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040703124435.GH630@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0407030843400.2415@hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk>
On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 08:53:39AM +0100, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Andrew Clausen wrote:
> > In any case, I don't have any evidence that anything is wrong. On my
> > computer, I can tell the BIOS to use CHS geometry, (as opposed to
> > "Auto", "LBA" or "Large") modify the partition table to set the CHS
> > start/end of the Windows partition to 0, 1024, or anything I like, and
> > Windows STILL works. I can't get anything to break!
>
> Which version of Windows?
XP home edition (the green box)
> Does it use NTFS as both the boot and system drive?
I am using a single NTFS partition.
Note: I reversed-engineered the Windows FAT bootstrap code. My analysis
is contained in the file doc/FAT in the Parted source distribution. I
concluded that Windows uses LBA if the LBA flag is set in the boot
partition table entry. (i.e. the partition type includes LBA in the
fdisk codes - this corresponds to a bit being set)
> > So, can anyone break Windows?
>
> Easily. Modify any of the relevant values in the NTFS bootsector and
> windows will no longer boot. So it clearly cares hugely about the
> geometry. And at present there is no easy way for us to tell what it is
> so mkntfs and ntfsclone cannot create bootable partitions on 2.6 kernels.
> (Works fine on 2.4 using HDIO_GETGEO.)
>
> The relevant fields are (see linux/fs/ntfs/layout.h or
> ntfsprogs/include/ntfs/layout.h) in the NTFS_BOOT_SECTOR in the
> BIOS_PARAMETER_BLOCK:
>
> u16 sectors_per_track; /* Required to boot Windows. */
> u16 heads; /* Required to boot Windows. */
> u32 hidden_sectors; /* Offset to the start of the partition relative
> to the disk in sectors. Required to boot Windows. */
I just set the first 2 of these fields to 0, and everything still works.
Am I blessed? (Or perhaps cursed!)
Isn't hidden_sectors an LBA value (and hence irrelevant to this discussion)?
Cheers,
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-03 12:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <s5gwu1mwpus.fsf@patl=users.sf.net>
2004-07-02 16:17 ` [RFC] Restoring HDIO_GETGEO semantics (was: Re: workaround for BIOS / CHS stuff) Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-02 16:50 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-02 18:28 ` dwm
2004-07-02 21:12 ` parted maintainership Andries Brouwer
2004-07-02 17:04 ` [RFC] Restoring HDIO_GETGEO semantics (was: Re: workaround for BIOS / CHS stuff) Andries Brouwer
2004-07-02 18:12 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-02 18:45 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.60.0407022025200.28638@hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk>
2004-07-02 19:57 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-07-03 0:17 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-03 0:42 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-07-03 0:56 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-03 1:57 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-03 13:59 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-07-05 12:14 ` Restoring HDIO_GETGEO semantics for 2.6 (was: Re: [RFC] Restoring HDIO_GETGEO semantics) Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-05 13:10 ` Steffen Winterfeldt
2004-07-05 13:12 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-05 13:13 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-07-05 14:00 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-05 19:05 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-07-05 21:08 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-05 21:52 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-07-06 0:17 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-06 1:56 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-06 18:56 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-07 1:28 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-07 11:14 ` Roman Zippel
2004-07-07 11:51 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-06 8:33 ` Steffen Winterfeldt
2004-07-05 18:09 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-05 18:58 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-07-03 3:00 ` [RFC] Restoring HDIO_GETGEO semantics (was: Re: workaround for BIOS / CHS stuff) Andrew Clausen
2004-07-02 23:55 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2004-07-03 13:56 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-07-03 2:54 ` Andrew Clausen
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.60.0407030843400.2415@hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk>
2004-07-03 12:44 ` Andrew Clausen [this message]
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.60.0407031535230.6149@hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk>
2004-07-03 15:02 ` Andrew Clausen
2004-07-03 14:42 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-07-03 1:35 ` Andrew Clausen
2004-07-03 12:33 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-03 14:15 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-07-03 14:45 ` Andrew Clausen
2004-07-03 15:00 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-07-03 20:12 ` Andries Brouwer
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