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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
To: Tigran Aivazian <tigran@aivazian.fsnet.co.uk>
Cc: FabF <fabian.frederick@skynet.be>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: question about /proc/<PID>/mem in 2.4
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 08:04:36 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040706110436.GA11441@logos.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0407061210190.20027-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 12:14:04PM +0100, Tigran Aivazian wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, FabF wrote:
> > > Surely, the super user (i.e. CAP_SYS_PTRACE in this context) should be 
> > > allowed to read any process' memory without having to do the 
> > > PTRACE_ATTACH/PTRACE_PEEKUSER kind of thing which strace(8) is doing?
> > 
> > FYI may_ptrace_attach plugged somewhere between 2.4.21 & 22.This one get
> > used as is (ie without MAY_PTRACE) in proc_pid_environ but dunno about
> > reason why CAP_SYS_PTRACE isn't authoritative elsewhere.
> 
> Ok, but still nobody seems to know why the super user is not allowed to
> access /proc/<PID>/mem of any task. Any code which nobody in the world
> knows the reason for, is broken and should be removed.
> 
> I will wait a few weeks to see if someone does come up with the reason for
> that "extra secure" check in mem_read() and if nobody has objections I'll
> send Linus a patch to relax the check to a more reasonable one, namely to
> allow CAP_SYS_PTRACE process to bypass any other conditions imposed.

Hi Tigran, 

This code was added to stop the ptrace/kmod vulnerabilities. I do not 
fully understand the issues around tsk->is_dumpable and the fix itself,
but I agree on that the checks here could be relaxed for the super user.

However changing it to 

        if (!is_dumpable(task) && !capable(CAP_SYS_PTRACE))
                goto out;

Seems wrong because this will stop always honoring the tsk->is_dumpable flag. (?)

Alan for sure can make the picture clear - he wrote this thing.
                                                                                                                                                                                   


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-07-06 11:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-05 13:27 question about /proc/<PID>/mem in 2.4 Tigran Aivazian
2004-07-05 13:37 ` FabF
2004-07-05 14:22   ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-07-05 14:25     ` FabF
2004-07-06 11:14       ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-07-06 10:49         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-06 11:35           ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-07-06 11:04         ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2004-07-06 13:08           ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-07-06 16:31             ` Alan Cox
2004-07-07 13:53               ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-07-07 13:26                 ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-07-07 16:21                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-07-07 16:13                 ` Alan Cox

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