From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264910AbUGIOte (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:49:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264922AbUGIOte (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:49:34 -0400 Received: from khepri.openbios.org ([80.190.231.112]:28292 "EHLO khepri.openbios.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264910AbUGIOtc (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:49:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:48:59 +0200 From: Stefan Reinauer To: Christoph Hellwig , Pavel Machek , Erik Rigtorp , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pavel@ucw.cz Subject: Re: [PATCH] swsusp bootsplash support Message-ID: <20040709144859.GA18243@openbios.org> References: <20040708110549.GB9919@linux.nu> <20040708133934.GA10997@infradead.org> <20040708204840.GB607@openzaurus.ucw.cz> <20040708210403.GA18049@infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040708210403.GA18049@infradead.org> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.5-12.7-smp on an x86_64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Duff: Orig. Duff, Duff Lite, Duff Dry, Duff Dark, Raspberry Duff, Lady Duff, Red Duff, Tartar Control Duff, ( =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=FCff?=) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Christoph Hellwig [040708 23:04]: > No. This stuff has no business in the kernel, paint your fancy graphics > ontop of fbdev. And the SuSE bootsplash patch is utter crap, I mean what > do you have to smoke to put a jpeg decoder into the kernel? Christoph, don't assume drugs just because you lack a little fantasy ;) I agee with kernel 2.6 one could do a lot better due to proper initramfs handling, but in kernel 2.4 there was no decent way of placing userspace code early enough to be executed before framebuffer initialization. On the other hand, the jpeg decoder is 8k object size - less than the dozens of gzip/gunzip algorithms in the kernel, so complaining sounds a little foolish to me. If you just want to bitch, go and critizise that with 1024x768 the bootsplash patch eats 1.5MB of memory permanently. THAT would make sense, if anything. Whether one wants retro text messages or a graphical bootup mechanism is sure a philosophical thing. IMHO starting X that early is not an option. Stefan