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From: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>
Cc: ncunningham@linuxmail.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: GCC 3.4 and broken inlining.
Date: 10 Jul 2004 06:50:28 +0200
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 06:50:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040710045028.GA55490@muc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040709221755.GU28324@fs.tum.de>

On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 12:17:55AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 11:54:15PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > Runtime errors caused with gcc 3.4 are IMHO much worse than such a small 
> > > improvement or three dozen compile errors with gcc 3.4 .
> > 
> > What runtime errors? 
> > 
> > Actually requiring inlining is extremly rare and such functions should
> > get that an explicit always inline just for documentation purposes.
> > (another issue is not optimized away checks, but that shows at link time) 
> 
> First of all, your proposed patch seems to be broken WRT gcc < 3.1 .

The latest version does fallback #define __always_inline inline
That was indeed broken in the original patch.

> 
> > In the x86-64 case it was vsyscalls, in Nigel's case it was swsusp.
> > Both are quite exceptional in what they do.
> > 
> > > Wouldn't it be a better solution if you would audit the existing inlines 
> > > in the kernel for abuse of inline and fix those instead?
> > 
> > I don't see any point in going through ~1.2MLOC of code by hand
> > when a compiler can do it for me.
> 
> How can a compiler decide whether an "inline" was for a possible small  
> speed benefit or whether it's required for correct working?

It can't, but the 0.001% of needed for inlines that are required 
for correctness should be always marked __always_inline
just for documentation alone.
You probably don't realize how special a case this is. 

> And I'm not that happy with the fact that gcc 3.3 and gcc 3.4 will 
> produce significantly different code for the same file. Besides from the  
> 3 dozen compile errors I'm currently sorting out, gcc 3.3 and 3.4 should 
> behave similar with __attribute__((always_inline)).

They are different compiler versiopns, they generate different code.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-10  4:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <2fG2G-4qK-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <2fPfF-2Dv-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <2fPfF-2Dv-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-07-09  4:51         ` GCC 3.4 and broken inlining Andi Kleen
2004-07-09  4:56           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-07-09  5:46             ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-09  9:43               ` Michael Buesch
2004-07-09 10:23                 ` Paweł Sikora
2004-07-10 21:33             ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-11  5:52               ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-14  3:00                 ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-09 18:40           ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-09 21:54             ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-09 22:17               ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-10  4:50                 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2004-07-10 21:25           ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-11  5:53             ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-11  6:55               ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11  8:26                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-11  8:32                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11  9:08                     ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-11 11:50                     ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-11 13:01                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2004-07-13  1:02                         ` [updated 2.6 patch] #define inline as __attribute__((always_inline)) also for gcc >= 3.4 Adrian Bunk
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     [not found] ` <fa.gktbdsg.1n4em8o@ifi.uio.no>
2004-07-10  3:12   ` GCC 3.4 and broken inlining Robert Hancock
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     [not found] ` <2fVO5-79H-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <2fWqQ-7uv-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <2g0b6-1Cf-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-07-09 10:04       ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-08 11:46 Nigel Cunningham
2004-07-08 12:07 ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-07-08 12:11   ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]     ` <200407090036.39323.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2004-07-08 22:00       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-07-08 22:41         ` Zan Lynx
2004-07-09  6:54           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 21:20             ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-08 20:52   ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-08 21:09     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-08 22:08       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-07-08 22:25         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-08 22:37           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-07-09  6:24         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10  1:21           ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-10  2:30             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-13 22:19               ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-10  6:31             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 21:17       ` Alexandre Oliva

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