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From: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
To: Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com>
Cc: ncunningham@linuxmail.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: GCC 3.4 and broken inlining.
Date: 11 Jul 2004 07:52:16 +0200
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 07:52:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040711055216.GA87770@muc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <orr7rjo8cr.fsf@livre.redhat.lsd.ic.unicamp.br>

On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 06:33:40PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> On Jul  9, 2004, Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> 
> > I do think that functions being declared inline when they can't be
> > inlined is wrong
> 
> The problem is not when they can or cannot be inlined.  The inline
> keyword has nothing to do with that.  It's a hint to the compiler,
> that means that inlining the function is likely to be profitable.
> But, like the `register' keyword, it's just a hint.  And, unlike the
> `register' keyword, it doesn't make certain operations on objects
> marked with it ill-formed (e.g., you can't take the address of an
> register variable, but you can take the address of an inline
> function).

The main reason always_inline was added is that gcc 3.3 stopped
inlining copy_from/to_user, which generated horrible code bloat
(because it consists of a lot of code that was supposed to be optimized away,
and putting it in a static into every module generated a lot of useless code) 

At this time the poor person blessed with this compiler y took the easy way out - 
just define inline as always_inline.

It may have been possible to do it only for selected functions, but that
would have been a lot of work: you cannot really expect that the
kernel goes through a large effort just to work around compiler
bugs in specific compiler versions.

The gcc 3.4/3.5 inliner seem to be better, but is still quite bad in cases
(e.g. 3.5 stopped to inline the three line fix_to_virt() which requires 
inlining). For 3.4/3.5 it's probably feasible to do this, but I doubt
it is worth someone's time for 3.3. 

> The issue with inlining that makes it important for the compiler to
> have something to say on the decision is that several aspects of the
> profit from expanding the function inline is often machine-dependent.
> It depends on the ABI (calling conventions), on how slow call
> instructions are, on how important instruction cache hits are, etc.
> Sure enough, GCC doesn't take all of this into account, so its
> heuristics sometimes get it wrong.  But it's getting better.

gcc is extremly dumb at that currently. Linux has a lot of inline
functions like

static inline foo(int arg) 
{ 
	if (__builtin_constant_p(arg)) { 
		/* lots of code that checks for arg and does different things */
	} else { 
		/* simple code */
	}
} 

(e.g. take a look at asm/uaccess.h for extreme examples) 

The gcc inliner doesn't know that all the stuff in the constant case
will be optimized away and it assumes the function is big. That's 
really a bug in the inliner.

But even without that it seems to do badly - example is asm/fixmap.h:fix_to_virt()

#define __fix_to_virt(x)        (FIXADDR_TOP - ((x) << PAGE_SHIFT))
static inline unsigned long fix_to_virt(const unsigned int idx)
{
        if (idx >= __end_of_fixed_addresses)
                __this_fixmap_does_not_exist();

        return __fix_to_virt(idx);
}


This three liner is _not_ inlined in current gcc mainline.
I cannot describe this in any other way than badly broken.

> Meanwhile, you should probably distinguish between must-inline,
> should-inline, may-inline, should-not-inline and must-not-inline
> functions.  Attribute always_inline covers the must-inline case; the

You're asking us to do a lot of work just to work around compiler bugs?

I can see the point of having must-inline - that's so rare that
it can be declared by hand. May inline is also done, except
for a few misguided people who use -O3. should not inline seems
like overkill.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-11  5:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]     ` <2fPfF-2Dv-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <2fPfF-2Dv-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-07-09  4:51         ` GCC 3.4 and broken inlining Andi Kleen
2004-07-09  4:56           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-07-09  5:46             ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-09  9:43               ` Michael Buesch
2004-07-09 10:23                 ` Paweł Sikora
2004-07-10 21:33             ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-11  5:52               ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2004-07-14  3:00                 ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-09 18:40           ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-09 21:54             ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-09 22:17               ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-10  4:50                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-10 21:25           ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-11  5:53             ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-11  6:55               ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11  8:26                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-11  8:32                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11  9:08                     ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-11 11:50                     ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-11 13:01                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2004-07-13  1:02                         ` [updated 2.6 patch] #define inline as __attribute__((always_inline)) also for gcc >= 3.4 Adrian Bunk
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     [not found] ` <fa.gktbdsg.1n4em8o@ifi.uio.no>
2004-07-10  3:12   ` GCC 3.4 and broken inlining Robert Hancock
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     [not found] ` <2fVO5-79H-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]     ` <2g0b6-1Cf-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-07-09 10:04       ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-08 11:46 Nigel Cunningham
2004-07-08 12:07 ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-07-08 12:11   ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]     ` <200407090036.39323.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2004-07-08 22:00       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-07-08 22:41         ` Zan Lynx
2004-07-09  6:54           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 21:20             ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-07-08 20:52   ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-08 21:09     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-08 22:08       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-07-08 22:25         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-08 22:37           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-07-09  6:24         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10  1:21           ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-10  2:30             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-13 22:19               ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-10  6:31             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 21:17       ` Alexandre Oliva

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