From: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
To: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
Cc: Daniel Phillips <phillips@istop.com>,
sdake@mvista.com, David Teigland <teigland@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Minneapolis Cluster Summit, July 29-30
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:11:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040712101107.GA31013@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040712100547.GF3933@marowsky-bree.de>
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 12:05:47PM +0200, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
> On 2004-07-12T08:58:46,
> Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com> said:
>
> > Running realtime and mlocked (prealloced) is most certainly not
> > sufficient for causes like this; any system call that internally
> > allocates memory (even if it's just for allocating the kernel side of
> > the filename you handle to open) can lead to this RT, mlocked process to
> > cause VM writeout elsewhere.
>
> Of course; appropriate safety measures - like not doing any syscall
> which could potentially block, or isolating them from the main task via
> double-buffering childs - need to be done. (heartbeat does this in
> fact.)
well the problem is that you cannot prevent a syscall from blocking really.
O_NONBLOCK only impacts the waiting for IO/socket buffer space to not do so
(in general), it doesn't impact the memory allocation strategies by
syscalls. And there's a whopping lot of that in the non-boring syscalls...
So while your heartbeat process won't block during getpid, it'll eventually
need to do real work too .... and I'm quite certain that will lead down to
GFP_KERNEL memory allocations.
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Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-05 6:09 [ANNOUNCE] Minneapolis Cluster Summit, July 29-30 Daniel Phillips
2004-07-05 15:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-07-05 18:42 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-05 19:08 ` Chris Friesen
2004-07-05 20:29 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-07 22:55 ` Steven Dake
2004-07-08 1:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-05 19:12 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-05 20:27 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-06 7:34 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-06 21:34 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-07 18:16 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-08 1:14 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-08 9:10 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-08 10:53 ` David Teigland
2004-07-08 14:14 ` Chris Friesen
2004-07-08 16:06 ` David Teigland
2004-07-08 18:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-08 19:41 ` Steven Dake
2004-07-10 4:58 ` David Teigland
2004-07-10 4:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-10 17:59 ` Steven Dake
2004-07-10 20:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-10 23:24 ` Steven Dake
2004-07-11 19:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-11 21:06 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 6:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 10:05 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 10:11 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2004-07-12 10:21 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 10:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 11:50 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 12:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 13:13 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 13:40 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-12 20:54 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 2:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-13 2:31 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-27 3:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-27 4:07 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-27 5:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-14 12:19 ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-15 2:19 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-15 12:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-07-14 8:32 ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-12 4:08 ` Steven Dake
2004-07-12 4:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-12 18:21 ` Steven Dake
2004-07-12 19:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-13 20:06 ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-12 10:14 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
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[not found] ` <fa.go9f063.1i72joh@ifi.uio.no>
2004-07-06 6:39 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
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2004-07-10 14:58 James Bottomley
2004-07-10 16:04 ` David Teigland
2004-07-10 16:26 ` James Bottomley
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