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From: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
Cc: Daniel Phillips <phillips@istop.com>,
	sdake@mvista.com, David Teigland <teigland@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Minneapolis Cluster Summit, July 29-30
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:50:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040712115003.GV3933@marowsky-bree.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040712102818.GB31013@devserv.devel.redhat.com>

On 2004-07-12T12:28:19,
   Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com> said:

> > Sure, but the network IO is isolated from the main process via a _very
> > careful_ non-blocking IO using sockets library, so that works out well.
> ... which of course never allocates skb's ? ;)

No, the interprocess communication does not; it's local sockets. I think
Alan (Robertson) even has a paper on this. It's really quite well
engineered, with a non-blocking poll() implementation based on signals
and stuff. Oh well.

> > But again, I'd rather like to see this solved (memory pools for
> > userland, PF_ etc), because it's relevant for many scenarios requiring
> PF_ is not enough really ;) 
> You need to force GFP_NOFS etc for several critical parts, and well, by
> being in kernel you can avoid a bunch of these allocations for real, and/or
> influence their GFP flags

True enough, but I'm somewhat unhappy with this still. So whenever we
have something like that we need to move it into the kernel space?
(pvmove first, and now the clustering etc.) Can't we come up with a way
to export this flag to user-space?


Sincerely,
    Lars Marowsky-Brée <lmb@suse.de>

-- 
High Availability & Clustering	    \ ever tried. ever failed. no matter.
SUSE Labs, Research and Development | try again. fail again. fail better.
SUSE LINUX AG - A Novell company    \ 	-- Samuel Beckett


  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-12 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-05  6:09 [ANNOUNCE] Minneapolis Cluster Summit, July 29-30 Daniel Phillips
2004-07-05 15:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-07-05 18:42   ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-05 19:08     ` Chris Friesen
2004-07-05 20:29       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-07 22:55         ` Steven Dake
2004-07-08  1:30           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-05 19:12     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-05 20:27       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-06  7:34         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-06 21:34           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-07 18:16             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-08  1:14               ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-08  9:10                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-08 10:53                   ` David Teigland
2004-07-08 14:14                     ` Chris Friesen
2004-07-08 16:06                       ` David Teigland
2004-07-08 18:22                     ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-08 19:41                       ` Steven Dake
2004-07-10  4:58                         ` David Teigland
2004-07-10  4:58                         ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-10 17:59                           ` Steven Dake
2004-07-10 20:57                             ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-10 23:24                               ` Steven Dake
2004-07-11 19:44                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-11 21:06                                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12  6:58                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 10:05                                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 10:11                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 10:21                                           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 10:28                                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 11:50                                               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree [this message]
2004-07-12 12:01                                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 13:13                                                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 13:40                                                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-12 20:54                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13  2:19                                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-13  2:31                                                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-27  3:31                                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-27  4:07                                                               ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-27  5:57                                                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-14 12:19                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-15  2:19                                                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-15 12:03                                                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-07-14  8:32                                             ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-12  4:08                                   ` Steven Dake
2004-07-12  4:23                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-12 18:21                                       ` Steven Dake
2004-07-12 19:54                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-13 20:06                                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-12 10:14                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
     [not found] <fa.io9lp90.1c02foo@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.go9f063.1i72joh@ifi.uio.no>
2004-07-06  6:39   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
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2004-07-10 14:58 James Bottomley
2004-07-10 16:04 ` David Teigland
2004-07-10 16:26   ` James Bottomley

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