From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
lmb@suse.de, arjanv@redhat.com, phillips@istop.com,
sdake@mvista.com, teigland@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Minneapolis Cluster Summit, July 29-30
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:19:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040714121920.GA2350@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040712135432.57d0133c.akpm@osdl.org>
Hi!
> > I don't see why it would be a problem to implement a "this task
> > facilitates page reclaim" flag for userspace tasks that would take
> > care of this as well as the kernel does.
>
> Yes, that has been done before, and it works - userspace "block drivers"
> which permanently mark themselves as PF_MEMALLOC to avoid the obvious
> deadlocks.
> Note that you can achieve a similar thing in current 2.6 by acquiring
> realtime scheduling policy, but that's an artifact of some brainwave which
> a VM hacker happened to have and isn't a thing which should be relied upon.
>
> A privileged syscall which allows a task to mark itself as one which
> cleans memory would make sense.
Does it work?
I mean, in kernel, we have some memory cleaners (say 5), and they
need, say, 1MB total reserved memory.
Now, if you add another task with PF_MEMALLOC. But now you'd need
1.2MB reserved memory, and you only have 1MB. Things are obviously
going to break at some point.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-14 12:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-05 6:09 [ANNOUNCE] Minneapolis Cluster Summit, July 29-30 Daniel Phillips
2004-07-05 15:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-07-05 18:42 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-05 19:08 ` Chris Friesen
2004-07-05 20:29 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-07 22:55 ` Steven Dake
2004-07-08 1:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-05 19:12 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-05 20:27 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-06 7:34 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-06 21:34 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-07 18:16 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-08 1:14 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-08 9:10 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-08 10:53 ` David Teigland
2004-07-08 14:14 ` Chris Friesen
2004-07-08 16:06 ` David Teigland
2004-07-08 18:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-08 19:41 ` Steven Dake
2004-07-10 4:58 ` David Teigland
2004-07-10 4:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-10 17:59 ` Steven Dake
2004-07-10 20:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-10 23:24 ` Steven Dake
2004-07-11 19:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-11 21:06 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 6:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 10:05 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 10:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 10:21 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 10:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 11:50 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 12:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 13:13 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 13:40 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-12 20:54 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 2:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-13 2:31 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-27 3:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-27 4:07 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-27 5:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-14 12:19 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2004-07-15 2:19 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-15 12:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-07-14 8:32 ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-12 4:08 ` Steven Dake
2004-07-12 4:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-12 18:21 ` Steven Dake
2004-07-12 19:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-13 20:06 ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-12 10:14 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
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[not found] ` <fa.go9f063.1i72joh@ifi.uio.no>
2004-07-06 6:39 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
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2004-07-10 14:58 James Bottomley
2004-07-10 16:04 ` David Teigland
2004-07-10 16:26 ` James Bottomley
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