From: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
To: Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, oleg@tv-sign.ru
Subject: Re: [RFC] Refcounting of objects part of a lockfree collection
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:26:28 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040715065627.GA6377@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040715062102.GA1312@obelix.in.ibm.com>
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 11:51:04AM +0530, Ravikiran G Thirumalai wrote:
> Now it would have been nice if we did not have to use cmpxchg
> for refcount_get_rcu, or atleast if all arches implemented cmpxchg in
> hardware. Since neither is true, for arches with no cmpxchg, we use
> the hashed spinlock method. When we use hashed spinlock for
> refcount_get_rcu method, we need to use the same spinlock to protect the
> refcount for the usual refcount_gets too. So no atomic_inc for
> refcount_gets on arches with no cmpxchg.
> Now why refcount_get when you are using refcount_get_rcu for a refcount one
> might ask. With the fd patch, there are places where the refcount_get
> happens with traditional serialisation, and places where refcount_get
> happens lockfree. So it makes sense for performance sake to have a
> simple atomic_inc (refcount_get) instead of and the whole cmpxchg shebang
> for the same refcounter when traditional locking is held. Hence the
> refcount_get infrastructure. The whole refcount infrastructure
> provided is _not_ meant for traditinal refcounting ...which kref
> accomplishes. If it is used for traditional refcounting (i.e refcount_get
> on a refcounter is used without any refcount_get_rcus for the same
> counter), arches with nocmpxchg will end up using hashed spinlocks for
> simple refcount_gets :). A Note was included in the header file as
> a warning:
Would this work -
kref_get - just atomic inc
kref_put - just atomic dec
kref_get_rcu - cmpxchg if arch has or hashed spinlock
kref_put_rcu - dec if has cmpxchg else hashed spinlock
If the object has lock-free look-up, it must use kref_get_rcu.
You can use kref_get on such an object if the look-up is being
done with lock. Is there a situation that is not covered by this ?
Thanks
Dipankar
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-15 6:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-14 4:53 [RFC] Refcounting of objects part of a lockfree collection Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 4:56 ` [RFC] Lock free fd lookup Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 15:17 ` Chris Wright
2004-07-15 14:22 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-15 16:10 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-15 16:22 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-15 16:34 ` Chris Wright
2004-07-16 5:38 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-16 6:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 0:55 ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17 1:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 2:12 ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17 2:34 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 2:28 ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17 3:16 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 13:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2004-07-14 7:07 ` [RFC] Refcounting of objects part of a lockfree collection Greg KH
2004-07-14 8:26 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 14:26 ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 15:22 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 17:03 ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 17:49 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 18:03 ` Greg KH
2004-07-15 6:21 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-15 6:56 ` Dipankar Sarma [this message]
2004-07-14 8:57 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 17:08 ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 18:17 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-15 8:02 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-15 9:36 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-16 14:32 ` Greg KH
2004-07-16 15:50 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
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2004-07-14 10:24 Oleg Nesterov
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