From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264912AbUGVG5M (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Jul 2004 02:57:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266560AbUGVG5M (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Jul 2004 02:57:12 -0400 Received: from fw.osdl.org ([65.172.181.6]:49599 "EHLO mail.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264912AbUGVG5L (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Jul 2004 02:57:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 02:55:39 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Adrian Bunk Cc: corbet@lwn.net, bgerst@didntduck.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: New dev model (was [PATCH] delete devfs) Message-Id: <20040722025539.5d35c4cb.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20040721235228.GZ14733@fs.tum.de> References: <40FEEEBC.7080104@quark.didntduck.org> <20040721231123.13423.qmail@lwn.net> <20040721235228.GZ14733@fs.tum.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Changes that remove functionally like Greg's patch are hopefully > still 2.7 stuff - 2.6 is a stable kernel series and smooth upgrades > inside a stable kernel series are a must for many users. I don't necessarily agree that such changes in the userspace interface should be tied to the kernel version number, really. That's a three or four year warning period, which is unreasonably long. Six to twelve months should be long enough for udev-based replacements to stabilise and propagate out into distributions. That being said, mid-2005 would be an appropriate time to remove devfs. If that schedule pushes things along faster than they would otherwise have progressed, well, good. Nothing is cast in stone here btw - we're pushing the envelope, trying new things, keeping that which works well and reexamining things which perhaps don't work so well. Feel free to disagree - we're listening.