From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>,
corbet@lwn.net, bgerst@didntduck.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New dev model (was [PATCH] delete devfs)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 03:04:54 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040722070453.GA21907@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040722025539.5d35c4cb.akpm@osdl.org>
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 02:55:39AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> wrote:
> >
> > Changes that remove functionally like Greg's patch are hopefully
> > still 2.7 stuff - 2.6 is a stable kernel series and smooth upgrades
> > inside a stable kernel series are a must for many users.
>
> I don't necessarily agree that such changes in the userspace interface
> should be tied to the kernel version number, really. That's a three or
> four year warning period, which is unreasonably long. Six to twelve months
> should be long enough for udev-based replacements to stabilise and
> propagate out into distributions.
Users have had the 6-12 month warning about devfs for a while now :)
And udev is currently available in the latest distro versions of:
- Red Hat
- SuSE
- Gentoo
- Debian
- Mandrake
While devfs is only supported in Gentoo at this time (and udev fills
that support issue for those users.)
> That being said, mid-2005 would be an appropriate time to remove devfs. If
> that schedule pushes things along faster than they would otherwise have
> progressed, well, good.
Ok, if people think that would really change anything, I'll wait a year.
I'm patient :)
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-22 7:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-21 14:15 [PATCH] delete devfs Greg KH
2004-07-21 14:26 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-07-21 14:35 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-21 14:52 ` Greg KH
2004-07-21 21:19 ` Jesse Stockall
2004-07-21 21:27 ` Greg KH
2004-07-21 21:53 ` Jesse Stockall
2004-07-21 22:05 ` Greg KH
2004-07-21 22:17 ` Jesse Stockall
2004-07-21 22:47 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-07-22 6:49 ` Greg KH
2004-07-22 9:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-07-22 10:08 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-07-22 16:13 ` Matt Porter
2004-07-23 19:06 ` [RFC]: CONFIG_UNSUPPORTED (was: Re: [PATCH] delete devfs) R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-23 20:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-23 21:17 ` Russell King
2004-07-23 21:22 ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-23 23:35 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-07-23 22:01 ` [RFC]: CONFIG_UNSUPPORTED Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-07-22 1:08 ` [PATCH] delete devfs Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz
2004-07-22 1:48 ` Mike Snitzer
2004-07-21 22:02 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-21 22:07 ` Greg KH
2004-07-21 22:14 ` David Weinehall
2004-07-21 22:31 ` Brian Gerst
2004-07-21 23:11 ` New dev model (was [PATCH] delete devfs) Jonathan Corbet
2004-07-21 23:52 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-22 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-22 7:04 ` Greg KH [this message]
2004-07-22 10:19 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-22 12:55 ` Josh Boyer
2004-07-22 11:32 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2004-07-22 19:12 ` Greg KH
2004-07-22 19:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-22 22:28 ` Paul Jackson
2004-07-22 23:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-23 2:22 ` Tim Wright
2004-07-23 6:31 ` Ville Herva
2004-07-23 21:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-07-23 21:08 ` Ville Herva
2004-07-25 11:59 ` Jan Knutar
2004-07-25 18:53 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-07-23 8:16 ` szonyi calin
2004-07-23 12:21 ` Jonathan Corbet
2004-07-23 19:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-24 14:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-07-23 14:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-07-23 15:50 ` szonyi calin
2004-07-27 22:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-28 21:25 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-08-02 18:48 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-03 22:07 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-07-24 16:21 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2004-07-27 22:12 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-28 7:24 ` Paul Jackson
2004-07-22 23:01 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-22 20:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-22 20:28 ` Kevin Fox
2004-07-23 20:09 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-22 21:01 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-07-23 0:39 ` Jason Cooper
2004-07-23 20:57 ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-25 13:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-26 1:38 ` Ben Hoskings
2004-07-26 2:12 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-07-28 6:25 ` Ben Hoskings
2004-07-28 21:23 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-08-04 21:53 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-07-28 21:22 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-07-29 12:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-22 1:33 ` [PATCH] delete devfs Mike Snitzer
2004-07-21 23:26 ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-21 22:11 ` Francois Romieu
2004-07-21 22:40 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-07-21 23:15 ` Francois Romieu
2004-07-22 8:23 ` sam
2004-07-22 10:24 ` Gene Heskett
2004-07-22 10:58 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-22 21:06 ` sam
2004-07-23 0:21 ` Gene Heskett
2004-07-22 22:19 ` Paul Jakma
2004-07-22 19:22 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-07-22 17:56 ` Deepak Saxena
2004-07-21 14:52 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-07-21 14:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2004-07-21 18:25 ` Greg KH
2004-07-21 19:55 ` Matthew Garrett
2004-07-21 19:34 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-07-21 21:13 ` Ben Collins
2004-07-21 22:20 ` Wichert Akkerman
2004-07-22 19:44 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-07-21 15:49 ` Kasper Sandberg
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-07-22 7:45 New dev model (was [PATCH] delete devfs) Svetoslav Slavtchev
2004-07-22 10:40 ` Han Boetes
2004-07-22 13:17 Svetoslav Slavtchev
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20040722070453.GA21907@kroah.com \
--to=greg@kroah.com \
--cc=akpm@osdl.org \
--cc=bgerst@didntduck.org \
--cc=bunk@fs.tum.de \
--cc=corbet@lwn.net \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox