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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@istop.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	lmb@suse.de, arjanv@redhat.com, sdake@mvista.com,
	teigland@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Minneapolis Cluster Summit, July 29-30
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 01:57:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200407270157.50378.phillips@istop.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4105D511.9030207@yahoo.com.au>

On Tuesday 27 July 2004 00:07, Nick Piggin wrote:
> But a PF_MEMALLOC userspace task is still useful.

Absolutely.  This is the route I'm taking, and I just use an ioctl to flip the 
task bit as I mentioned (much) earlier.  It still needs to be beaten up in 
practice.  The cluster snapshot block device, which has a relatively complex 
userspace server, should be a nice test case.

> >The PF_MEMALLOC flag is inherited down a call chain, not across a pipe or
> >similar IPC to user space.
>
> This is no different in kernel of course.

I was talking about in-kernel.  Once we let the PF_MEMALLOC state escape to 
user space, things start looking brighter.  But you still have to invoke that 
userspace code somehow, and there is no direct way to do it, hence 
PF_MEMALLOC isn't inherited.  An easy solution is to have a userspace daemon 
that's always in PF_MEMALLOC state, as Andrew mentioned, which we can control 
via a pipe or similar.

> You would have to think about 
> which threads need the flag and which do not. Even better, you might
> aquire and drop the flag only when required.

Yes, that's what the ioctl is about.  However, this doesn't work for servicing 
writeout.

> I can't see any obvious problems you would run into.

;-)

Regards,

Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-27  5:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-05  6:09 [ANNOUNCE] Minneapolis Cluster Summit, July 29-30 Daniel Phillips
2004-07-05 15:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-07-05 18:42   ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-05 19:08     ` Chris Friesen
2004-07-05 20:29       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-07 22:55         ` Steven Dake
2004-07-08  1:30           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-05 19:12     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-05 20:27       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-06  7:34         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-06 21:34           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-07 18:16             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-08  1:14               ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-08  9:10                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-08 10:53                   ` David Teigland
2004-07-08 14:14                     ` Chris Friesen
2004-07-08 16:06                       ` David Teigland
2004-07-08 18:22                     ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-08 19:41                       ` Steven Dake
2004-07-10  4:58                         ` David Teigland
2004-07-10  4:58                         ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-10 17:59                           ` Steven Dake
2004-07-10 20:57                             ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-10 23:24                               ` Steven Dake
2004-07-11 19:44                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-11 21:06                                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12  6:58                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 10:05                                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 10:11                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 10:21                                           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 10:28                                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 11:50                                               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 12:01                                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12 13:13                                                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-07-12 13:40                                                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-12 20:54                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13  2:19                                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-13  2:31                                                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-27  3:31                                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-27  4:07                                                               ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-27  5:57                                                                 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2004-07-14 12:19                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-15  2:19                                                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-15 12:03                                                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-07-14  8:32                                             ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-12  4:08                                   ` Steven Dake
2004-07-12  4:23                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-12 18:21                                       ` Steven Dake
2004-07-12 19:54                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2004-07-13 20:06                                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-12 10:14                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
     [not found] <fa.io9lp90.1c02foo@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.go9f063.1i72joh@ifi.uio.no>
2004-07-06  6:39   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-07-10 14:58 James Bottomley
2004-07-10 16:04 ` David Teigland
2004-07-10 16:26   ` James Bottomley

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