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From: Trent Lloyd <lathiat@bur.st>
To: mru@kth.se, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Future devfs plans (sorry for previous incomplete message)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:12:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040728001217.GC31618@thump.bur.st> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yw1xzn5nrv6o.fsf@kth.se>

I see your point, but I wonder how it differs from the current devfs
implementation (i don't know how it works in these cases)

> Trent Lloyd <lathiat@bur.st> writes:
> 
> > Wouldn't a possible solution to do this to develop an extension to tmpfs to
> > catch files accessed that don't exist etc and use that in conjuction
> > with udev?
> 
> There is a problem with that scheme.  Imagine that a program attempts
> to access a non-existing device.  The special fs would call modprobe
> or similar which would load the correct module.  Loading this module
> would cause hotplug events upon which udev would create the device
> node.  However, all this is asynchronous.  The special fs could wait
> for a while for the device to appear, but this doesn't quite look like
> a nice solution.  The exit status of modprobe can't be used, since
> even if the module loads perfectly it might not cause the requested
> device to be created.  Even if it does, there will be some delay from
> the module being loaded to udev creating the device node, so how long
> should the kernel wait for the device to appear?  I haven't thought
> about it further, but I smell races here.
> 
> -- 
> M?ns Rullg?rd
> mru@kth.se
> 
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Trent Lloyd <lathiat@bur.st>
Bur.st Networking Inc.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-28  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-26 17:37 Future devfs plans (sorry for previous incomplete message) Adam J. Richter
2004-07-26  3:34 ` Tim Connors
2004-07-26  6:24 ` Trent Lloyd
2004-07-26  6:32   ` Norberto Bensa
2004-07-26  7:11     ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-07-26  9:09   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-07-28  0:12     ` Trent Lloyd [this message]
2004-07-28  1:43       ` Måns Rullgård
2004-07-26  9:38 ` Ville Herva
2004-07-27  1:03 ` Matt Mackall
2004-07-28  3:16   ` Ian Kent
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-07-28  4:16 Adam J. Richter

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