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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: David Wagner <daw@cs.berkeley.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Delete cryptoloop
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:05:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040731020534.GX5414@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200407310044.i6V0iOZe032440@taverner.CS.Berkeley.EDU>

On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 05:44:24PM -0700, David Wagner wrote:
> > But we identified more problems (I don't if these are all real issues).
> > Assuming the attacker has access to both plaintext and the encrypted
> > disk. (shared storage, user account on the machine or something)
> [...]
> 
> Yes, there are a host of potential attacks in this scenario.  That's why I
> wrote that, if you find yourself in this threat model, it would be prudent
> to assume that the current disk encryption scheme can potentially be
> defeated.  Does anyone care about these threat models?  From the design,
> I had assumed that no one cared, but if they are relevant in practice,
> then it might make sense to investigate additional defenses.

Here's a probable scenario: encrypted mail spool in maildir format.
Attacker can send mail of his choosing and then later capture the
machine with the hope of breaking in.

Ideally, we'd ship a requirements and specification document that
describes the security trade-offs of cryptoloop/dm-crypt in some
detail. There are way too many unstated assumptions here.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-31  2:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-21 20:16 [PATCH] Delete cryptoloop James Morris
2004-07-21 23:44 ` David S. Miller
2004-07-22  6:00 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-22  3:30   ` James Morris
2004-07-22  7:43     ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-07-22 14:14       ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-07-22 14:58         ` Jack Lloyd
2004-07-28 20:24     ` David Wagner
2004-07-29  0:27       ` James Morris
2004-07-29 15:50         ` Christophe Saout
2004-07-29 21:15           ` David Wagner
2004-07-30 13:13             ` Christophe Saout
2004-07-31  0:44               ` David Wagner
2004-07-31  2:05                 ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2004-07-31 17:29                   ` Marc Ballarin
2004-08-02 22:54                   ` David Wagner
2004-08-02 23:16                     ` James Morris
2004-08-07 16:27                       ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-07-22  4:26   ` dpf-lkml
2004-07-22  5:22     ` James Morris
2004-07-22 11:58       ` Paul Rolland
2004-07-22 20:40         ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-07-22  8:46     ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-22  6:13       ` Dale Fountain
2004-07-22  6:47         ` Tim Connors
2004-07-22 15:02           ` Petr Baudis
2004-07-22 11:36         ` Aiko Barz
2004-07-24 15:11           ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2004-07-24 15:53       ` gadgeteer
2004-07-29 16:12       ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-29 17:23         ` James Morris
2004-07-29 19:48           ` Andries Brouwer
2004-07-22 22:13 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-24 12:41 ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2004-07-24 16:52   ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-24 14:08     ` Andreas Henriksson
2004-07-24 19:54       ` Paul Jackson
2004-07-27 20:02     ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-25 11:42   ` Jari Ruusu
2004-07-25 13:24     ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2004-07-25 15:24       ` Marc Ballarin
2004-07-25 16:57       ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2004-07-25 17:25       ` Jari Ruusu
2004-07-25 18:02         ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2004-07-25 19:09           ` Lee Revell
2004-07-25 19:15             ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2004-07-25 19:44           ` Marc Ballarin
2004-07-25 20:58             ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2004-07-26 10:54           ` Jari Ruusu
2004-07-26 12:45             ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2004-07-26 18:11               ` Jari Ruusu
2004-07-26 22:59                 ` Fruhwirth Clemens
2004-07-26 20:01               ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]                 ` <fa.edslbgp.q763qd@ifi.uio.no>
2004-07-27  8:40                   ` Junio C Hamano
2004-07-27  8:53                     ` Matt Mackall
2004-07-27 10:10                     ` Marc Ballarin
2004-07-26 22:04               ` Marc Ballarin
2004-07-27 19:56   ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found] <2kMAw-rl-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-07-22 19:44 ` Pascal Brisset
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-07-23 10:59 Thomas Habets
     [not found] <2kvT4-5AY-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <2kC85-1AH-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <2kDxa-2sB-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <2kECW-3a0-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-07-23 12:34       ` Walter Hofmann
2004-07-23 14:01         ` Kevin Corry
2004-07-23 18:20           ` Christophe Saout
2004-07-27 19:47         ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-23 12:50 mattia
2004-07-26  7:13 Adam J. Richter
2004-07-30  8:43 Markku-Juhani O. Saarinen

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