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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@hist.no>
Cc: Andy Isaacson <adi@hexapodia.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>,
	"Mr. Berkley Shands" <berkley@cse.wustl.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Severe I/O performance regression 2.6.6 to 2.6.7 or 2.6.8-rc3
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 01:51:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040806085137.GY17188@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41134272.3080902@hist.no>

William Lee Irwin III wrote:
>> Once we get there, there must be some way to construct intermediate
>> points between those two faithful at the very least to the snapshot
>> ordering if not true chronological ordering.

On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 10:33:54AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:
> You don't really need chronology for a binary search.  With a
> list of changesets, just apply/back out half of them.  Divide the lot
> any way you like, perhaps starting with only the "suspected" ones.

Wrong. Without chronology, one first of all gets an uncompileable tree
half the time, and second, more importantly, one has no method of
correlating the reconstructed source with user observations. Those
often come in the form of "version $FOO worked for me, but then I
upgraded to version $BAR, and the world exploded."

Between user-observable release points, one could say anything goes
modulo the first point, which is that this artifically-constructed
state may be complete gibberish from the standpoint of patches mixing.
But there is no way around the fact that user-observable release points
must be reconstructible and the ordering must be faithful to them. In
fact, this is so fine-grained as to include nightly snapshots.

-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-06  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-05 17:02 Severe I/O performance regression 2.6.6 to 2.6.7 or 2.6.8-rc3 Mr. Berkley Shands
2004-08-05 17:25 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-05 19:58   ` Mr. Berkley Shands
2004-08-05 20:46     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-05 22:33       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06  0:21         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06  2:09         ` Andy Isaacson
2004-08-06  2:27           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06  2:42             ` Andy Isaacson
2004-08-06  3:11               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06  8:33             ` Helge Hafting
2004-08-06  8:51               ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-08-06 18:02   ` Fast patch for " Mr. Berkley Shands
2004-08-08  8:22     ` Ram Pai
2004-08-16 20:30       ` [PATCH] " Ram Pai
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-06  0:41 Berkley Shands

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