From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268125AbUHFKrS (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Aug 2004 06:47:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268127AbUHFKrS (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Aug 2004 06:47:18 -0400 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk ([212.18.232.186]:55825 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268125AbUHFKrM (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Aug 2004 06:47:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 11:47:08 +0100 From: Russell King To: Adam Belay , linux@dominikbrodowski.de, akpm@osdl.org, rml@ximian.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] pcmcia driver model support [1/5] Message-ID: <20040806114708.B13653@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Adam Belay , linux@dominikbrodowski.de, akpm@osdl.org, rml@ximian.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org References: <20040805222026.GA11641@neo.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20040805222026.GA11641@neo.rr.com>; from ambx1@neo.rr.com on Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 10:20:26PM +0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 10:20:26PM +0000, Adam Belay wrote: > This patch set is an updated version from the last and is against > 2.6.8-rc3. It includes suggestions from Dominik and an independent > pcmcia bugfix. I would appreciate any comments. I'm overall _NOT_ happy with the growing number of people trying to "fix" PCMCIA to do what they want it to do. I've recently had davem screaming and shouting his head off at me while I was at OLS claiming that PCMCIA network drivers _MUST_ be user unloadable at any time, irrespective of the requirements of the PCMCIA layer. It's _VERY_ easy to fuck up the PCMCIA code - we've fucked it up several times already and the only way to detect these fuckups is to change things _SLOWLY_ and let a full release cycle pass by between changes. Yes, it means that PCMCIA changes take _MONTHS_ but that's reality. So please slow down. -- Russell King Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ maintainer of: 2.6 PCMCIA - http://pcmcia.arm.linux.org.uk/ 2.6 Serial core