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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Patrick Mochel <mochel@digitalimplant.org>
Subject: Re: Solving suspend-level confusion
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 23:21:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040806212145.GG30518@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200408020938.17593.david-b@pacbell.net>

Hi!

> > > > Maybe a better approach would be to describe the required features to
> > > > the drivers rather than encoding them in a single integer. Rather
> > > > like passing a request that states "lowest power level with device state
> > > > retained, must not do DMA, enable remote wake up"
> > > 
> > > A pointer to some sort of struct could be generic and typesafe;
> > > better than an integer or enum.
> > 
> > Well... if it gets that complicated, drivers will get it wrong...
> 
> It's already broken though!   Type-safe calls might at least
> trigger compiler warning when folk do things like, for example,
> pass a system power policy where a device power policy is
> needed.  So long as the API uses integers (or enums), it falls
> in the category of "oversimplified, impossible to get right".
> 
> But such a massive API change sounds to me like a 2.7
> thing.

Good.. So, for 2.6, can we agree on doing "enum xxx" thing? That at
least serves as a documentation. We could teach sparse to check for
it... (Anything that does 

enum foo x;
enum bar y = x;

is broken. If gcc does not warn about this, we should fix gcc...)

I believe "enum system_state" passed around, even to PCI drivers, and 
enum pci_state to_pci_state(enum system_state) helper is the right
thing to do for 2.6. Can we agree on that? 
								Pavel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-06 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-30 16:44 Solving suspend-level confusion Pavel Machek
2004-07-30 22:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-07-30 23:06   ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-31  4:02 ` David Brownell
2004-07-31  4:36   ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-31  5:49   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-07-31 14:23     ` David Brownell
2004-07-31 17:01       ` Oliver Neukum
2004-07-31 17:51         ` David Brownell
2004-08-01  0:41         ` David Brownell
2004-08-01  1:34           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-02 16:38             ` David Brownell
2004-08-03  0:38               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-04  2:28                 ` David Brownell
2004-08-04  2:26                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-04  2:53                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-04  2:52                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-04  4:14                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-04  4:25                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-04  4:52                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-04  4:54                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-04  5:03                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-04  5:05                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-05 10:05                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-05 22:31                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-06  0:39                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-06 21:30                                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-06 21:29                           ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-06 22:27                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-06 22:37                               ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-06 21:26                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-05  1:29                     ` David Brownell
2004-08-05 10:19                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-06  0:32                         ` David Brownell
     [not found]                           ` <1091772799.2532.50.camel@laptop.cunninghams>
2004-08-07 22:24                             ` David Brownell
2004-08-04  2:56                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-04  3:30                     ` David Brownell
2004-08-04  4:19                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-04  4:47                       ` What PM should be and do (Was Re: Solving suspend-level confusion) Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-04  4:53                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-04  4:59                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-08 16:54                             ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-08 21:55                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-09  8:42                                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-05 18:19                         ` Greg KH
2004-08-05 22:14                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-07  0:08                             `  Éric Brunet
2004-08-08 19:48                               ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-11 21:23                             ` Greg KH
2004-08-08  0:54                         ` David Brownell
2004-08-06 21:21               ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2004-07-31 21:09       ` Solving suspend-level confusion Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-02 16:40         ` David Brownell
2004-08-03  0:50           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-07 23:30             ` David Brownell
2004-08-06 21:10           ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-07 23:23             ` David Brownell
2004-08-08 17:16               ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-06 20:04       ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-07 22:14         ` David Brownell
2004-08-07 23:53           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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