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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: Patrick Mochel <mochel@digitalimplant.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, benh@kernel.crashing.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Fix Device Power Management States
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:36:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200408101136.38387.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040810101308.GE9034@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>

On Tuesday 10 August 2004 3:13 am, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > Well, "no DMA" needs to be part of definition, too, because some
> > > devices (USB) do DMA only if they have nothing to do.

I think that should read "even if they have ...", not "only if ...".


> > I don't understand; that doesn't sound healthy.
> 
> It is not healthy. It is basicaly misdesigned piece of hardware called
> UHCI. It simply does DMA all the time :-(.

Unless it's suspended ... and I confess I've only had time to
make sure that OHCI and EHCI suspend properly using the
newish CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND patch.  UHCI is different
from those other mainstream controllers, it doesn't split
out its periodic schedule processing.

Keep in mind that to properly quiesce a USB controller, you've
got to quiesce every driver for every device hooked up to
that USB bus.  There's no escaping the bottom-up suspend
or top-down-resume processes, which makes me wonder
how Patrick's proposed patch can work for it...

- Dave
 

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-10 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-09 10:43 [RFC] Fix Device Power Management States Patrick Mochel
2004-08-09 11:38 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-09 16:02   ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-09 21:29     ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10  5:03       ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10  9:43         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-10 10:20           ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 22:33             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-10 13:58           ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 22:29             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-10 22:56               ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 23:09                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-10 23:36                   ` suspend2 merge [was Re: [RFC] Fix Device Power Management States] Pavel Machek
2004-08-11  0:04                     ` Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
2004-08-11  5:05                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-11  9:13                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 10:13         ` [RFC] Fix Device Power Management States Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 18:36           ` David Brownell [this message]
2004-08-10 20:36             ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 22:42             ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-09 22:15     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-10  0:43     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-10  9:00       ` Russell King
2004-08-10 10:08       ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10  0:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-10  4:55   ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10  6:52     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-10 10:07     ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 14:28       ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 17:56         ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 22:41           ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 23:10             ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 23:14             ` [patch] Smaller goal first: fix confusion [was Re: [RFC] Fix Device Power Management States] Pavel Machek
2004-08-11  1:02             ` [RFC] Fix Device Power Management States Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-10 19:41     ` David Brownell
2004-08-10 22:44       ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 10:33 ` Matthew Garrett
2004-08-10 14:36   ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 19:18 ` David Brownell
2004-08-10 20:50   ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-11  1:47 ` Todd Poynor
2004-08-12 22:03   ` Russell King

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