From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267494AbUHJPgp (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:36:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267475AbUHJPgo (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:36:44 -0400 Received: from ns.virtualhost.dk ([195.184.98.160]:2758 "EHLO virtualhost.dk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267431AbUHJPeT (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:34:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:33:34 +0200 From: Jens Axboe To: Stephan von Krawczynski , Joerg Schilling , alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, diablod3@gmail.com, dwmw2@infradead.org, eric@lammerts.org, james.bottomley@steeleye.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices Message-ID: <20040810153333.GF13369@suse.de> References: <200408101427.i7AERDld014134@burner.fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20040810164947.7f363529.skraw@ithnet.com> <20040810152458.GA1127@lug-owl.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20040810152458.GA1127@lug-owl.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Aug 10 2004, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: > On Tue, 2004-08-10 16:49:47 +0200, Stephan von Krawczynski > wrote in message <20040810164947.7f363529.skraw@ithnet.com>: > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:27:13 +0200 (CEST) > > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > > > - These distributions do not talk with the original Authors which > > > demonstrates that they do not like to benefit from OSS. > > > > Really, have you listened to yourself lately: "Commercial distros do not like > > to benefit from OSS." ??? > > How do you define their primary goal, arguing with Joerg Schilling, or what? > > IIRC Jörg complained some hundred emails ago that they (the SuSE > people) don't care to try to get their patches upstream, back to Jörg, > or discussing their changes with him (but instead hacking cdrecord the > way it fits best for them). Don't be naive. How do you discuss changes with him? The one patch I did create against the SUSE cdrecord for the one shipped with SL9.1 adds a note to use ATA over ATAPI since that is preferred, and it kills the silly open-by-devname warnings that are extremely confusing to users. I did send that back to Joerg, to no avail. > While they (and any other distro's people and anybody else) may > actually hack the code to no end, I consider it being good habit to By far the largest modification is dvd support, which we of course need to ship. The rest is really minor stuff. -- Jens Axboe