From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268498AbUHLKA6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Aug 2004 06:00:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268500AbUHLKA6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Aug 2004 06:00:58 -0400 Received: from gate.in-addr.de ([212.8.193.158]:40602 "EHLO mx.in-addr.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268498AbUHLKA5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Aug 2004 06:00:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:57:36 +0200 From: Lars Marowsky-Bree To: Steven Dake , "Walker, Bruce J" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Cc: Chris Wright , Discussion of clustering software components including GFS , dcl_discussion@osdl.org, cgl_discussion@osdl.org Subject: Re: [Linux-cluster] Re: [cgl_discussion] Re: [dcl_discussion] Clustersummit materials Message-ID: <20040812095736.GE4096@marowsky-bree.de> References: <3689AF909D816446BA505D21F1461AE4C75110@cacexc04.americas.cpqcorp.net> <1092249962.4717.21.camel@persist.az.mvista.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1092249962.4717.21.camel@persist.az.mvista.com> X-Ctuhulu: HASTUR User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2004-08-11T11:46:03, Steven Dake said: > If we can't live with the cluster services in userland (although I'm > still not convinced), then atleast the group messaging protocol in the > kernel could be based upon 20 years of research in group messaging and > work properly under _all_ fault scenarios. Right. Another important alternative maybe the Transis group communication suite, which has been released as GPL/LGPL now. This all just highlights that we need to think about communication some more before we can tackle it sensibly, but of course I'll be glad if someone proves me wrong and Just Does It ;-) Sincerely, Lars Marowsky-Brée -- High Availability & Clustering \ I allow neither my experience SUSE Labs, Research and Development | nor my cynicism to deter my SUSE LINUX AG - A Novell company \ optimistic outlook on life.