From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268601AbUHZJr4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 05:47:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268470AbUHZJn3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 05:43:29 -0400 Received: from mail3.ithnet.com ([217.64.64.7]:2540 "HELO ithnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S268207AbUHZJlZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 05:41:25 -0400 X-Sender-Authentication: net64 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:41:22 +0200 From: Stephan von Krawczynski To: Bill Davidsen Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: CD/DVD record Message-Id: <20040826114122.79daaa16.skraw@ithnet.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20040825135149.2166f4a4.skraw@ithnet.com> Organization: ith Kommunikationstechnik GmbH X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:54:25 -0400 (EDT) Bill Davidsen wrote: > On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > > > > Actually this is only FUD spread by Joerg. He is definitely not the only > > man on this planet knowing how to program CD/DVD burning equipment. > > Good, glad you have a supply of SCSI gurus who want to dedicate all their > spare time to maintaining OS software. Joerg has been at this for years, > and I think that while identifying technically competent people is > possible, I doubt there's a big overlap with the set of people who have > nothing better to do with their spare time. When I said "find" I certainly > meant both qualifications. Well, please read the docs for cdrecord again carefully. The story is not about _free_, it is about _money_. Certain versions of cdrecord are licensed to commercial customers for _money_. So please rethink your position. > > Generally cdrecord has one big deficiency, which obviously was intended: > > it does not allow medium skilled programmers from drive _vendors_ to add > > support for their latest hardware easily. Everyone has to beg Joerg, which > > obviously increased his ego dramatically over the years. > > It would be a lot better to start off a new project where vendors (or > > anybody with skill and will) can contribute more easily, i.e. something > > that is truely_open_. > > A nice idea, but in truth if a vendor wants support in cdrecord a tech ref > and sample unit will almost certainly do it. I'd love to have support for > HD_BURN in Linux, but Joerg can't seem to get the info needed. I doubt > that people who won't release the info will trouble to write the driver. Well, if I were owner of docs that are important for Joerg to make money and had listened to him for the past 4 or 5 years and how he treated people (and still does) it would be highly probable that I wouldn't be very cooperative, too. Please see the whole picture, not only what Joerg talks about. Just take a clear look at his latest code changes and tell me if they look like being done by an open-minded and friendly person to you. Speaking from a potential commercial customers' point of view I decided against using this software, not because of the money, but because of the closed-everything-and-his-ears habit of the author. I don't see how this project can survive its current author. Therefore I consider it an already dead horse. -- Regards, Stephan