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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, grendel@caudium.net
Cc: "Nemosoft Unv." <webcam@smcc.demon.nl>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Craig Milo Rogers <rogers@isi.edu>,
	Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:40:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200408271840.04219.dtor_core@ameritech.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040827224937.GA5107@beowulf.thanes.org>

On Friday 27 August 2004 05:49 pm, Marek Habersack wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 11:42:30PM +0200, Nemosoft Unv. scribbled:
> [snip]
> > > So I'd personally much prefer the user mode approach. At that point it's
> > > still closed-source, but at least there is not even a whiff of a "hook"
> > > inside the kernel.
> > 
> > My problem with that is that it makes using such cams a lot harder for both 
> > users and developers of webcam tools. Basicly, every tool that wanted to 
> > use webcam X that has some binary-only library would need to specifically 
> > support it, use probing routines, check which formats are supported, set up 
> > the decompressor, push the data through it, etc. Conversely, every user 
> > that wanted to use webcams X, Y and Z would need to check first if they are 
> > all supported by the program(s) he would like to use.
> Forgive me if I'm talking bullshit, but wouldn't it be possible for you to
> route the stream through a device with an entry in /dev/ which would be
> opened by a userspace daemon which would take the stream from the in-kernel
> pwc driver, apply all the codec magic to it, and then give it back to the
> driver in the kernel so that the application that grabs the frames would get
> the processed data? That way you would need only one userlevel daemon to
> support the codecs and all the other apps would just read the data from the
> framebuffer.
> 

I wonder if something like uinput is possible/desirable for v4l?

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-27 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-26 23:32 Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc) Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-26 23:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-27  0:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27  8:43     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-27  9:48       ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-27 17:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27 17:37         ` Xavier Bestel
2004-08-27 18:13           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27 18:55             ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-27 19:06               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27 19:34                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-08-27 21:42                 ` Nemosoft Unv.
2004-08-27 22:49                   ` Marek Habersack
2004-08-27 23:40                     ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2004-08-28 17:42                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-27 23:04                   ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-27 21:59                 ` non-i386 architectures (Re: Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc)) Daniel Egger
2004-08-27 19:06               ` Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc) Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-27 19:12             ` Alex Belits
2004-08-27 21:36             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2004-08-27 21:42               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2004-08-27 22:26                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-08-27 21:52               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27 22:22                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-08-28  0:45                   ` Paul Jakma
2004-08-28  0:53                     ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-28 10:29             ` Norbert van Nobelen
2004-08-29 14:37         ` Alan Cox
2004-08-28  9:26     ` chris
2004-08-29 14:41       ` Alan Cox
2004-08-29 14:36     ` Alan Cox
2004-08-29 18:09       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-29 18:57         ` Alan Cox
2004-08-29 19:40         ` Greg KH
2004-08-30  9:35         ` Craig Milo Rogers
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-27 10:14 Koos Vriezen
2004-08-27 11:03 ` Marcus Metzler
2004-08-28  2:16 lkml-mail
2004-08-28  5:30 ` Greg KH

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