From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266334AbUH1LXe (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Aug 2004 07:23:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266351AbUH1LXd (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Aug 2004 07:23:33 -0400 Received: from verein.lst.de ([213.95.11.210]:33946 "EHLO mail.lst.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266334AbUH1LXT (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Aug 2004 07:23:19 -0400 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:22:55 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: flx@msu.ru, Christophe Saout , Andrew Morton , Hans Reiser , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, flx@namesys.com, torvalds@osdl.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com Subject: Re: reiser4 plugins (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Message-ID: <20040828112255.GA11569@lst.de> Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Hellwig , flx@msu.ru, Christophe Saout , Andrew Morton , Hans Reiser , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, flx@namesys.com, torvalds@osdl.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com References: <412D9FE6.9050307@namesys.com> <20040826014542.4bfe7cc3.akpm@osdl.org> <1093522729.9004.40.camel@leto.cs.pocnet.net> <20040826124929.GA542@lst.de> <1093525234.9004.55.camel@leto.cs.pocnet.net> <20040826130718.GB820@lst.de> <1093526273.11694.8.camel@leto.cs.pocnet.net> <20040826132439.GA1188@lst.de> <1093527307.11694.23.camel@leto.cs.pocnet.net> <20040828111807.GC6746@alias> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040828111807.GC6746@alias> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 03:18:07PM +0400, Alexander Lyamin wrote: > Yes, I think it would be nice to have this infrastructure in VFS. Technically. > But its not possible, cause of "committee clusterfuck". Socially. Stupidly. Please explain your problems. I've not seen a single actually working proposal yet. Current reiser4 implementation apparently oopses and breaks guaranteed fs semantics, it's not going in in either reiser4 or the vfs. Al has started a thread to hash out working semantics, but there's not been a single namesys person involved. Similar all of you have absolutely ignore every single technical question or comment but started a flamefest consisting mostly of personal attacs and "mine is longer" politics.