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From: Erik Andersen <andersen@codepoet.org>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	mmazur@kernel.pl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] linux-libc-headers 2.6.8.1
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 02:43:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040830084327.GB12963@codepoet.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040830080757.GD5492@holomorphy.com>

On Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 01:07:57AM -0700, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> On Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 12:24:22AM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
> >> It has never been a constant, and any portable piece of
> >> software needs to evaluate it not at compile time.
> >> When I first did the sparc64 port, the biggest source of
> >> portability problems was of the "uses PAGE_SIZE in some way"
> >> nature.
> >> This is a positive change, we should break the build of these
> >> apps and thus get them fixed.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 01:48:35AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
> > There is no question that using PAGE_SIZE should be considered
> > harmful.  But this particular change to the linux-libc-headers
> > makes it easy for the common case (bog standard x86) folk to keep
> > using a fixed PAGE_SIZE value, and keep writing crap code which
> > is now _guaranteed_ to blow chunks on mips, x86_64, etc.
> > I think outright removal of PAGE_SIZE from user space may be a
> > much better choice, with some sortof #error perhaps...  Wouldn't
> > it be better for the whole world if people would get errors like
> >     foo.c:10:2: #error "Don't use PAGE_SIZE, use sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE)"
> > making people actually fix their code?
> 
> In general people #define PAGE_SIZE (getpagesize()) or some such.

Then perhaps the right thing is for linux-libc-headers to always
provide such a define for PAGE_SIZE for _all_ architectures, not
just for those that happen to have variable PAGE_SIZE values.

 -Erik

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-30  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-29 20:32 [ANNOUNCE] linux-libc-headers 2.6.8.1 Mariusz Mazur
2004-08-30  6:28 ` Erik Andersen
2004-08-30  7:24   ` David S. Miller
2004-08-30  7:48     ` Erik Andersen
2004-08-30  8:07       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-30  8:43         ` Erik Andersen [this message]
2004-08-30 11:17       ` Mariusz Mazur
2004-08-30  9:22 ` Andrew Walrond
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-30 13:36 Albert Cahalan

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