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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:12:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040831131201.GA1609@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41323AD8.7040103@namesys.com>

Hi!

> Answer: choose obscure names
> 
> Problem (all credit to Mr. Demidov for identifying this problem, I
> argued the other viewpoint, and I can only claim the wisdom to know
> that I lost the argument): names like "..metas" are ugly to new users,
> who don't really care for languages that use punctuation in their
> keywords.
> 
> Answer
> 
> don't make them too obscure, experienced namespace developers know
> that the problem of polluting the namespace is not really as big a
> deal as beginners think it is, and Clearcase and the WAFL filesystem
> manage to get by just fine, whereas the problem of putting punctuation
> marks into names and syntax is a big deal for newbies to the system.
> Name it "metas" not "..metas", and users will never experience it as a
> real problem, and newbies will never be annoyed by a-rhythmic
> punctuation.  Note: if Linus disagrees, it is not the most important
> thing in this design, "..metas" isn't the end of the world.

What about choosing just "..." instead of "metas"? "metas" is string
that needs translation etc, while "..." is nicely neutral.

cat /sound_of_silence.mp3/.../author

does not look bad, either...
								Pavel
-- 
People were complaining that M$ turns users into beta-testers...
...jr ghea gurz vagb qrirybcref, naq gurl frrz gb yvxr vg gung jnl!

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-31 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-29 20:21 silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why Hans Reiser
2004-08-31 13:12 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2004-08-31 13:36   ` Christian Mayrhuber
2004-09-07 20:16   ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-07 20:59     ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-08  9:14       ` Romano Giannetti
2004-09-07 21:05     ` William Stearns
2004-09-07 22:09       ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-09-09  9:03         ` silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea ofwhat " Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-09 17:23           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09 18:09           ` Gunnar Ritter
2004-09-09 19:15           ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-09 20:45             ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-10  0:57               ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10  1:15                 ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-10  5:04                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10  5:53                     ` viro
2004-09-10  6:52                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10  7:05                         ` viro
2004-09-10  7:30                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10 16:49                             ` Lee Revell
2004-09-10 17:23                               ` viro
2004-09-10  7:21                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10  7:33                         ` viro
2004-09-10  7:46                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10  8:18                             ` viro
2004-09-10  9:20                     ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 17:48                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10 17:07                         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 13:08                     ` Horst von Brand
2004-09-10  3:22                 ` Horst von Brand
2004-09-12 20:43             ` Davide Inglima
2004-09-10  9:42           ` Helge Hafting
2004-09-10 17:42             ` Horst von Brand
     [not found]             ` <20040910201738.GB8698@eskimo.com>
2004-09-14  8:39               ` Helge Hafting
2004-08-31 14:09 ` silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what " Mike Waychison
2004-08-31 17:55 ` V13
2004-08-31 18:17   ` Spam
2004-08-31 19:08     ` Tonnerre
2004-08-31 19:38       ` Spam
2004-09-01  3:11         ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-08-31 19:35     ` V13
     [not found]       ` <874qmjm51g.fsf@uhoreg.ca>
2004-08-31 20:31         ` Spam
     [not found]           ` <87vfezkm06.fsf@uhoreg.ca>
2004-08-31 22:15             ` Spam
2004-08-31 19:49   ` Chris Dawes
2004-09-01  6:03   ` Hans Reiser

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