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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
To: Jim Houston <jim.houston@comcast.net>
Cc: dipankar@in.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC&PATCH] Alternative RCU implementation
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 17:57:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040901005750.GG1241@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1093997450.4069.1.camel@new.localdomain>

On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 08:10:50PM -0400, Jim Houston wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 13:38, Dipankar Sarma wrote:
> 
> > > I'm also trying to figure out if I need the call_rcu_bh() changes.
> > > Since my patch will recognize a grace periods as soon as any 
> > > pending read-side critical sections complete, I suspect that I
> > > don't need this change.
> > 
> > Except that under a softirq flood, a reader in a different read-side
> > critical section may get delayed a lot holding up RCU. Let me know
> > if I am missing something here.
> 
> Hi Dipankar,
> 
> O.k.  That makes sense.  So the rcu_read_lock_bh(), rcu_read_unlock_bh()
> and call_rcu_bh() would be the preferred interface.  Are there cases
> where they can't be used?  How do you decide where to use the _bh 
> flavor?

Hello, Jim,

You would use rcu_read_lock() instead of rcu_read_lock_bh() in cases
where you did not want the read-side code to disable bottom halves.
This is very similar to choosing between read_lock() and read_lock_bh()
-- if you unnecessarily use read_lock_bh() or rcu_read_lock_bh(), you
will be unnecessarily delaying drivers' bottom-half execution.

> I see that local_bh_enable() WARNS if interrupts are disabled.  Is that
> the issue?  Are rcu_read_lock()/rcu_read_unlock() ever called from 
> code which disables interrupts?

The RCU "_bh()" interfaces correspond to a different set of quiescent
states than do the standard interfaces.  You could indeed use
rcu_read_lock() with interrupts disabled, but I don't know of any
such use.

						Thanx, Paul

> Jim Houston - Concurrent Computer Corp.
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-01  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <m3brgwgi30.fsf@new.localdomain>
2004-08-30  0:43 ` [RFC&PATCH] Alternative RCU implementation Paul E. McKenney
2004-08-30 17:13   ` Jim Houston
2004-08-30 17:38     ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-09-01  0:10       ` Jim Houston
2004-09-01  0:57         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2004-08-30 18:52     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-08-31  3:22       ` Jim Houston
2004-09-01  3:53         ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-09-01 13:02           ` Jim Houston
2004-09-02 16:38             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-09-02 18:54               ` Jim Houston
2004-09-02 21:20                 ` Manfred Spraul
2004-09-03  1:19                   ` Jim Houston

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