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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
To: Jim Houston <jim.houston@comcast.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
	Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au
Subject: Re: [RFC&PATCH] Alternative RCU implementation
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:38:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040902163854.GC1258@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1094043719.986.51.camel@new.localdomain>

On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 09:02:00AM -0400, Jim Houston wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 23:53, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 11:22:49PM -0400, Jim Houston wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 14:52, Paul E. McKenney wrote: 
> > > > How does the rest of the kernel work with all interrupts to
> > > > a particular CPU shut off?  For example, how do you timeslice?
> > > 
> > > It's a balancing act.  In some cases we just document the
> > > missing functionality.  If the local timer is disabled on a cpu,
> > > all processes are SCHED_FIFO.  In the case of Posix timers, we
> > > move timers to honor the procesor shielding an the process affinity.
> > 
> > I have to ask...  When you say that you move the timers, you mean that
> > non-realtime CPU 1 managers timers for realtime CPU 0, so that CPU 1
> > is (effectively) taking CPU 0's timer interrupts?
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> That is part of the idea.  There are lots of timers which we don't
> expect to have realtime behavior.
> 
> There are also services like Posix timers and nanosleep() where we want
> very predictable behavior.  If a process does a nanosleep(), we queue
> that timer on the local cpu.  If process affinity is changed, we will
> move the timer to a cpu where the process is allowed to run.
> 
> We have separate queues for high resolution timers.  If the local queue
> is empty, we shutdown the timer.

Hello, Jim,

How do you mark a given CPU as being in realtime mode?  Or is the
timer-shutdown decision based on the presence of a realtime process
runnable on the given CPU or some such?

Still trying to figure out a way to make this work without adding
overhead to rcu_read_unlock()...

						Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-02 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <m3brgwgi30.fsf@new.localdomain>
2004-08-30  0:43 ` [RFC&PATCH] Alternative RCU implementation Paul E. McKenney
2004-08-30 17:13   ` Jim Houston
2004-08-30 17:38     ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-09-01  0:10       ` Jim Houston
2004-09-01  0:57         ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-08-30 18:52     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-08-31  3:22       ` Jim Houston
2004-09-01  3:53         ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-09-01 13:02           ` Jim Houston
2004-09-02 16:38             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2004-09-02 18:54               ` Jim Houston
2004-09-02 21:20                 ` Manfred Spraul
2004-09-03  1:19                   ` Jim Houston

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