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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	torvalds@osdl.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	axboe@suse.dk
Subject: Re: Nasty IDE crasher in 2.6.9rc1
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 17:19:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040903151928.GE1717@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1094219998.7975.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, Sep 03 2004, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Gwe, 2004-09-03 at 15:50, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > (suse.dk is not related to suse.de and it helpfully eats all messages
> > sent to unknown users. not so great :(
> 
> Ah sorry.
> 
> > > Another problem with barrier is that it can take several minutes worst case
> > > for the command to complete on a large modern drive (timings c/o friendly
> > > ide drive engineer). That causes two problems I've pointed out to Jens that
> > > we need to fix before barriers are IMHO production grade
> > 
> > Can you pass me his results?
> 
> I can ask. Its NDA data (not Maxtor). Or Eric might have public info ?
> The later mail I reported my tests trying to make it as slow as possible
> and I couldn't get worse than 7 seconds for the command.

IIRC, 7 seconds is the magic number that Microsoft uses for when a
command times out in the kernel... That might make the results a little
suspicious :)

> 
> > > 2.	The timeouts on the command issue appear to be too small, and
> > > 	we will time out and reset the drive in loaded situations. 
> > 
> > You don't seem to address that in your patch?
> 
> I'm not sure what the right answer is.

I guess as a first measure just increasing the timeout two-fold will
cover most of the problem.

-- 
Jens Axboe


      reply	other threads:[~2004-09-03 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-31 14:23 Nasty IDE crasher in 2.6.9rc1 Alan Cox
2004-09-03 14:50 ` Jens Axboe
2004-09-03 13:59   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-03 15:19     ` Jens Axboe [this message]

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