From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>
Cc: Keith Whitwell <keith@tungstengraphics.com>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@yahoo.com>,
dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New proposed DRM interface design
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 13:21:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040904132142.A14904@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0409041311020.25475@skynet>; from airlied@linux.ie on Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 01:17:54PM +0100
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 01:17:54PM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote:
> Lets take an example, I'm DA graphics card vendor, I write a DRI driver
> for my brand new 3d graphics cards (they rock btw :-), people buy loads of
> them, I want to give them something on my website that they can deploy to
> use their new card, like a driver for ANotherOS. Now I just want to give
> them an XFree DDX, DRI driver and a drm module (in source form, that they
> can use no matter what kernel), now at the moment no matter what kernel
> they have, the DRM is a completly separate entity - the DRM code deals
> with it,
>
> If we make a library split that sits inside the kernel, their DRM can
> stop working if someone busts the interface, hence the idea of having the
> core reg/dereg in the kernel, and locking it down, then they can ship a
> complete DRM source tree, and do as they wish as long as they interface
> properly with the core...
And with each distro kernel update they have to reinstall the damn thing.
If you absolutely want people to use your driver on older kernels add the
right KERNEL_VERSION (or DRI_VERSION if you want to abstract this out some
way) for older ones.
Again, how is drm different from scsi or net or whatever drivers except
that you need a big userlevel component aswell?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-04 12:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-04 0:12 New proposed DRM interface design Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 0:44 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04 0:51 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 1:20 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04 4:58 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 9:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 9:43 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 9:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 9:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-04 9:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 9:45 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 9:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 10:23 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 10:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 10:30 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 10:44 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-04 10:54 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 11:17 ` Dave Jones
2004-09-04 12:58 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-09-04 21:06 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-05 10:14 ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-09-04 10:57 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 11:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 11:12 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 11:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 11:24 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 11:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 21:34 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-04 22:41 ` viro
2004-09-04 23:33 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-05 2:10 ` Horst von Brand
2004-09-05 3:42 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-04 11:42 ` Dave Jones
2004-09-04 11:50 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 21:35 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-04 22:06 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-05 12:00 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-04 11:18 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 11:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 11:30 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 11:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 11:44 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 11:29 ` Dave Jones
2004-09-04 11:41 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 11:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 12:04 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 12:10 ` Dave Jones
2004-09-04 12:35 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 12:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 21:45 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-04 16:39 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-04 11:54 ` Dave Jones
2004-09-04 12:08 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 12:17 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 12:21 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2004-09-04 12:32 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 12:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-04 12:36 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 22:17 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 22:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 23:08 ` Felix Kühling
2004-09-04 12:20 ` Dave Jones
2004-09-04 13:52 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 15:36 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04 15:56 ` Dieter Nützel
2004-09-04 17:43 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 18:03 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-05 12:07 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-05 15:05 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-05 14:15 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-05 15:33 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-05 14:44 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-05 14:58 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-05 16:05 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-05 15:13 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-07 8:43 ` Helge Hafting
2004-09-07 14:04 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-08 11:09 ` Helge Hafting
2004-09-06 6:06 ` Ryan Underwood
2004-09-05 15:31 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-05 17:27 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-05 21:12 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-05 20:53 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-05 22:11 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-05 22:59 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-06 20:58 ` Hamie
2004-09-06 20:15 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-06 21:38 ` Hamie
2004-09-06 21:47 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-06 22:18 ` Patrick McFarland
2004-09-07 19:21 ` Ian Romanick
2004-09-04 0:54 ` Alex Deucher
2004-09-04 0:59 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 1:25 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04 19:03 ` Alex Deucher
2004-09-04 3:51 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04 4:52 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 6:04 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04 7:36 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 7:53 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 8:25 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 8:37 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 9:02 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 16:01 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04 17:44 ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 7:52 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 15:46 ` Jon Smirl
[not found] ` <2191E8A1-FE89-11D8-BFDA-000A95F07A7A@fs.ei.tum.de>
2004-09-04 15:59 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04 21:35 ` Eric Anholt
2004-09-07 21:01 ` Ian Romanick
2004-09-04 9:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
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