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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
Subject: Re: /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max issues
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 16:06:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040912230617.GS2660@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040912180229.GA7157@taniwha.stupidest.org>

On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 10:13:19AM -0700, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
>> I presumed it was merely cosmetic, so daemons around system startup
>> will get low pid numbers recognizable by sysadmins. Maybe filtering
>> process listings for pids < 300 is/was used to find daemons that may
>> have crashed? I'm not particularly attached to the feature, and have
>> never used it myself, but merely noticed its implementation was off.

On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 11:02:29AM -0700, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> I always assumed it was an optimization when looking for a new PID
> after a wrap by trying to skip over the kernel threads.  Arguably 300
> is way too small for larger systems (which might have several thousand
> kernel threads) and should probably be sized on boot (or when starting
> userspace) if anyone really cares.

There's no reason it couldn't be made tunable, though we may want to
place restrictions on what values are allowed, e.g. reserved_pids > 0
and reserved_pids < min(BITS_PER_PAGE, pid_max). For that matter, we
should likely be using proc_dointvec_minmax() for pid_max or otherwise
a custom strategy function if we need to update bounds on reserved_pids
and/or reserved_pids in tandem. I suspect this is obscure enough I
should leave it alone unless someone develops a strong opinion about it.


-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-12 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-12  8:56 /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max issues Anton Blanchard
2004-09-12  9:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12  9:51   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12  9:58   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 10:10     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 10:13     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 10:43       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 10:45         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 11:08           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 11:20             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 17:13               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 18:02                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-12 23:06                   ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-09-13  1:46                 ` [pidhashing] rewrite alloc_pidmap() William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12  9:39 ` /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max issues Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12  9:43   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 12:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-12 12:30   ` Anton Blanchard
2004-09-12 12:44     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-12 13:34       ` Anton Blanchard
2004-09-12 13:41       ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-13  3:20 Albert Cahalan
2004-09-13  7:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-13 14:11   ` Albert Cahalan
2004-09-13 14:27     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-13 14:51       ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-09-14  2:13         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-23 13:13       ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-24 16:02         ` Martin Mares
2004-09-23 13:11   ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-13  7:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-13 13:54   ` Albert Cahalan
2004-09-13 14:24     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-13 14:54       ` Albert Cahalan
2004-09-14  2:02         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 15:32     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-18 18:32       ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-23 13:18     ` Pavel Machek

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