From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
Subject: Re: /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max issues
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 16:06:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040912230617.GS2660@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040912180229.GA7157@taniwha.stupidest.org>
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 10:13:19AM -0700, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
>> I presumed it was merely cosmetic, so daemons around system startup
>> will get low pid numbers recognizable by sysadmins. Maybe filtering
>> process listings for pids < 300 is/was used to find daemons that may
>> have crashed? I'm not particularly attached to the feature, and have
>> never used it myself, but merely noticed its implementation was off.
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 11:02:29AM -0700, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> I always assumed it was an optimization when looking for a new PID
> after a wrap by trying to skip over the kernel threads. Arguably 300
> is way too small for larger systems (which might have several thousand
> kernel threads) and should probably be sized on boot (or when starting
> userspace) if anyone really cares.
There's no reason it couldn't be made tunable, though we may want to
place restrictions on what values are allowed, e.g. reserved_pids > 0
and reserved_pids < min(BITS_PER_PAGE, pid_max). For that matter, we
should likely be using proc_dointvec_minmax() for pid_max or otherwise
a custom strategy function if we need to update bounds on reserved_pids
and/or reserved_pids in tandem. I suspect this is obscure enough I
should leave it alone unless someone develops a strong opinion about it.
-- wli
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-12 23:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-12 8:56 /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max issues Anton Blanchard
2004-09-12 9:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 9:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 9:58 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 10:10 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 10:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 10:43 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 10:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 11:08 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 11:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 17:13 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 18:02 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-12 23:06 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-09-13 1:46 ` [pidhashing] rewrite alloc_pidmap() William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 9:39 ` /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max issues Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 9:43 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 12:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-12 12:30 ` Anton Blanchard
2004-09-12 12:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-12 13:34 ` Anton Blanchard
2004-09-12 13:41 ` Ingo Molnar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-13 3:20 Albert Cahalan
2004-09-13 7:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-13 14:11 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-09-13 14:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-13 14:51 ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-09-14 2:13 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-23 13:13 ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-24 16:02 ` Martin Mares
2004-09-23 13:11 ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-13 7:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-13 13:54 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-09-13 14:24 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-13 14:54 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-09-14 2:02 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 15:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-18 18:32 ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-23 13:18 ` Pavel Machek
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