From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, raybry@sgi.com, jbarnes@engr.sgi.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [profile] amortize atomic hit count increments
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:10:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040914061023.GC9106@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040913224943.04761a15.davem@davemloft.net>
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:32:18 -0700 William Lee Irwin III wrote:
>> There is also an unusual facet to this; the TLB overhead of a loop like:
[...]
>> is very large and caused "effective nontermination", otherwise known as
>> "exhausting the user's patience", on SGI's systems after about half an
>> hour. So some TLB overhead amortization is necessary for this to be
>> feasible. I suspect iterating over pages of the profile buffer and
>> storing intermediate results for a page full of profile buffer hits
>> in a buffer page may suffice though I've not tried it.
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 10:49:43PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
> I bet that, like we found out about page tables on 64-bit, these
> profile buffers are sparsely populated with hits. So perhaps a
> per-cpu bitmap that indicates regions that might have any hits
> at all, allowing large amounts of skipping and thus amortizing the
> scan cost.
Well, that would speed it up, but the catastrophe was avoided in the
older patches by just processing all the hits for one cpu at a time,
and the buffering methods above for your suggested accounting
structures likely work well enough the overhead of processing unused
portions of the bitmap can be ignored. I don't really want to go about
addressing performance issues besides effective or actual
nontermination for this code, and would rather leave highly efficient
methods to oprofile (in fact, some others believe that even bugfixes
for such issues should be ignored for kernel/profile.c, contrary to my
notion that it shouldn't crash systems regardless of their size).
-- wli
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2004-09-13 8:50 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Andrew Morton
2004-09-13 9:22 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Nick Piggin
2004-09-13 17:24 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Jesse Barnes
2004-09-13 18:06 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Paul Jackson
2004-09-13 18:10 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Jesse Barnes
2004-09-13 21:30 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Jesse Barnes
2004-09-14 2:02 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Nick Piggin
2004-09-14 2:12 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Jesse Barnes
2004-09-13 10:20 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-13 10:48 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-09-13 11:13 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Nikita Danilov
2004-09-13 13:40 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-13 11:16 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-09-13 11:01 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-13 15:09 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-13 15:18 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Paul Jackson
2004-09-13 16:11 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-13 16:22 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Paul Jackson
2004-09-13 15:20 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Kirill Korotaev
2004-09-13 20:01 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Andrew Morton
2004-09-14 6:39 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Kirill Korotaev
2004-09-13 20:30 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Pasi Savolainen
2004-09-13 21:06 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-09-14 9:07 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Nikita Danilov
2004-09-14 9:12 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Andrew Morton
2004-09-14 13:21 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 David Howells
2004-09-14 14:24 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 James Morris
2004-09-14 15:36 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 David Howells
2004-09-13 21:47 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 scheduling while atomic Jesse Barnes
2004-09-13 22:56 ` Paul Jackson
2004-09-13 21:56 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 bug in tcp_recvmsg? Jesse Barnes
2004-09-13 22:36 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-13 22:44 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-13 22:47 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-13 23:54 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-13 23:55 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-14 0:03 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-14 0:21 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-14 17:09 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-14 0:25 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5: TCP oopses James Morris
2004-09-14 2:08 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-14 3:04 ` James Morris
2004-09-14 3:34 ` Herbert Xu
2004-09-14 4:53 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-14 4:55 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-14 5:07 ` James Morris
2004-09-14 2:25 ` [pidhashing] [0/3] pid allocator updates William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 2:28 ` [pidhashing] [1/3] retain older vendor copyright William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 2:31 ` [pidhashing] [2/3] lower PID_MAX_LIMIT for 32-bit machines William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 2:36 ` [pidhashing] [3/3] enforce PID_MAX_LIMIT in sysctls William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 2:38 ` [pidhashing] [2/3] lower PID_MAX_LIMIT for 32-bit machines William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 10:55 ` Roger Luethi
2004-09-14 11:10 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-09-14 12:06 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-09-14 12:08 ` Roger Luethi
2004-09-14 15:41 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 15:47 ` Roger Leuthi
2004-09-14 16:41 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 17:16 ` Roger Luethi
2004-09-14 2:53 ` [procfs] [1/1] fix task_mmu.c text size reporting William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 2:54 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15 10:51 ` [procfs] [2/1] report per-process pagetable usage William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 4:47 ` [profile] amortize atomic hit count increments William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 5:05 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-14 5:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 5:49 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-14 6:10 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-09-14 6:18 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 5:05 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-14 5:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 6:43 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 6:52 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-14 7:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 8:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 11:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-14 15:51 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 16:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-14 16:16 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-14 16:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-14 16:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 19:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 19:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 20:02 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 20:04 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 21:04 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 21:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 10:00 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Lorenzo Allegrucci
2004-09-15 11:36 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15 11:38 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Jens Axboe
2004-09-15 12:28 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15 12:41 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Jens Axboe
2004-09-15 12:50 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Jens Axboe
2004-09-15 12:53 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-16 0:38 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-16 5:44 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-16 5:45 ` 2.6.9-rc1-mm5 Jens Axboe
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