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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: swapping and the value of /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:15:58 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040914201558.GA32254@logos.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1095186713.6309.15.camel@stantz.corp.sgi.com>

On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 11:31:53AM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 16:27, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> wrote:
> 
> > >  The change was not deliberate but there have been some other people report 
> > >  significant changes in the swappiness behaviour as well (see archives). It 
> > >  has usually been of the increased swapping variety lately. It has been 
> > >  annoying enough to the bleeding edge desktop users for a swag of out-of-tree 
> > >  hacks to start appearing (like mine).
> > 
> > All of which is largely wasted effort.
> 
> >From a highly-theoretical, ivory-tower perspective, maybe; i am not the
> one to pass judgement.
> >From a realistic, "fix it 'cause it's performing worse than MSDOS
> without a disk cache" perspective, definitely not true.
>
> I've found a situation where the vanilla kernel has a behaviour that
> makes no sense:
> 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=109237941331221&w=2
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=109237959719868&w=2
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=109238126314192&w=2
> 
> A patch by Con Kolivas fixed it:
> 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=109410526607990&w=2
> 
> I cannot offer more details, i have no time for experiments, i just need
> a system that works. The vanilla kernel does not.

Have you tried to decrease the value of /proc/sys/vm/swappiness 
to say 30 and see what you get?

Andrew's point is that we should identify the problem - Con's patch
rewrites swapping policy.  



  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-14 22:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-06 19:11 swapping and the value of /proc/sys/vm/swappiness Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 20:10 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 21:22   ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 21:36     ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 22:37     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-06 23:51       ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-07  0:31         ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 22:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-06 23:09 ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-06 23:27   ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 23:34     ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07  0:03       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-07  1:34         ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07 10:38         ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-07 10:56           ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-08 16:45             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09  1:12               ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07 17:03           ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-07 21:20         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08  2:18           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 14:20           ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 16:54             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 19:35               ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 19:30                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09  3:06                   ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09  2:14                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09 14:21                       ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09  3:09                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09 14:16                       ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09 17:23                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-28  1:54                       ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-28  3:36                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-29  0:36                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-29  4:23                             ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-30 17:15                             ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 17:31             ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 18:04               ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-08 19:50                 ` Diego Calleja
2004-09-08 21:10                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 21:55                     ` Diego Calleja
2004-09-08 22:20                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 23:22                         ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-09 16:26                         ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-08 22:28                     ` Alan Cox
2004-09-08 23:42                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 19:54               ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 15:19           ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-14 18:31     ` Florin Andrei
2004-09-14 20:15       ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2004-09-14 22:53         ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-14 21:41           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-15  0:22             ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-16 18:50               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-17  0:22                 ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-15 16:54         ` Florin Andrei

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