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From: DervishD <lkml@dervishd.net>
To: Olaf Hering <olh@suse.de>
Cc: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: OOM & [OT] util-linux-2.12e
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:59:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040920105950.GI5482@DervishD> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040920094602.GA24466@suse.de>

    Hi Olaf :)

 * Olaf Hering <olh@suse.de> dixit:
> > then /etc/mtab can die. Comments? Better solutions?
> Andries, /etc/mtab is obsolete since the day when /proc/self/mounts was
> introduced. So, kill it today from your mount binary! TODAY. ...

    Bad idea... ;))) I upgraded my 'mount' yesterday. I was using a
mount from Debian, from 1998 more or less, that worked flawlessly
except for the '--bind' feature and things like those. I used
/etc/mtab as a symlink to /proc/mounts, and all worked OK except for
the double root entry and the need to manually call losetup to delete
unused /dev/loop entries.

    But after the upgrade I no longer could umount a filesystem that
I mounted as 'user', because the device is a symlink and the 'user'
option is not stored in /proc/mounts. So my problems were:

> - the 'user' option for umount must be handled in some way
> - loop mounts do not map to the real filename, users cant open the
>   device node to run losetup on it. I think it will also get relative
>   path names.
> - fix all broken apps that still rely on mtab. like GNU df(1)

    Exactly!!! I will add the double root filesystem entry (one from
the device, the other one being 'rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0'). Until all
these problems are solved, is not a good idea to remove /etc/mtab :(

    I have another issue with a chroot environment I have, which has
its own copy of proc and devpts mounted. Those appear in /proc/mounts
twice, but not in /etc/mtab (they appear in the /etc/mtab copy of the
chroot env).

    Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado

-- 
Linux Registered User 88736
http://www.pleyades.net & http://raul.pleyades.net/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-20 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-19 22:05 OOM & [OT] util-linux-2.12e Andries.Brouwer
2004-09-20  9:46 ` Olaf Hering
2004-09-20 10:12   ` Andreas Schwab
2004-09-20 10:54     ` DervishD
2004-09-20 11:43       ` Andreas Schwab
2004-09-20 11:51         ` Paulo Marques
2004-09-20 12:11           ` DervishD
2004-09-20 12:14           ` Andreas Schwab
2004-09-20 12:00         ` DervishD
2004-09-20 10:23   ` Roman Zippel
2004-09-20 10:56     ` Olaf Hering
2004-09-20 11:16       ` Roman Zippel
2004-09-20 11:26         ` Olaf Hering
2004-09-20 11:38           ` Roman Zippel
2004-09-20 11:50             ` Olaf Hering
2004-09-20 12:02               ` Roman Zippel
2004-09-20 12:07                 ` Olaf Hering
2004-09-20 12:14                   ` Roman Zippel
2004-09-20 12:19                     ` Olaf Hering
2004-09-20 12:34                       ` Roman Zippel
2004-09-20 12:38                         ` Olaf Hering
2004-09-20 12:51                           ` Andreas Schwab
2004-09-20 12:54                             ` Olaf Hering
2004-09-20 13:19             ` CaT
2004-09-20 13:33               ` Andreas Schwab
2004-09-20 13:15     ` CaT
2004-09-20 10:59   ` DervishD [this message]
2004-09-20 13:24     ` Helge Hafting
2004-09-20 13:21       ` Olaf Hering
2004-09-20 13:32         ` Helge Hafting
2004-09-20 14:12           ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-09-21  7:20             ` Helge Hafting
2004-09-21  9:18               ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-09-20 15:24     ` Tonnerre
2004-09-20 11:11   ` David Gómez
2004-09-20 11:06 ` DervishD
2004-09-20 11:38   ` Xavier Bestel
2004-09-20 11:59     ` DervishD
2004-09-20 12:32       ` Xavier Bestel
2004-09-20 14:16         ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-09-21 16:45 ` Jari Ruusu
2004-09-21 21:26   ` Andries Brouwer
2004-09-22 17:05     ` Jari Ruusu
2004-09-22 18:39       ` Andries Brouwer

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