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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: ncunningham@linuxmail.org, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@scrye.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.9-rc2-mm1 swsusp bug report.
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 05:56:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040925125606.GN9106@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <415562FE.3080709@yahoo.com.au>

Nigel Cunningham wrote:
>> Normal usage; the pattern of pages being freed and allocated inevitably
>> leads to fragmentation. The buddy allocator does a good job of
>> minimising it, but what is really needed is a run-time defragmenter. I
>> saw mention of this recently, but it's probably not that practical to
>> implement IMHO.
> 
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 10:22:22PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Well, by this stage it looks like memory is already pretty well shrunk
> as much as it is going to be, which means that even a pretty capable
> defragmenter won't be able to do anything.

For however useful defragmentation may be to make speculative use of
physically or virtually contiguous memory more probable to succeed, it
can never be made deterministic or even reliable, not even in pageable
kernels (which Linux is not). Fallback to allocations no larger than
the kernel's internal allocation unit, potentially in tandem with
scatter/gather capabilities, is essential.


-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-25 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-24  2:19 2.6.9-rc2-mm1 swsusp bug report Kevin Fenzi
2004-09-24 14:37 ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-24 21:09   ` Kevin Fenzi
2004-09-24 23:40     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-25  1:45       ` Kevin Fenzi
2004-09-25 11:53         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-25 12:22           ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-25 12:56             ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-09-25 13:21               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-25 12:56             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-25 13:38               ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-25 13:03             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-25 15:45             ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-25 22:03               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-26 10:04                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-26 21:59                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-26 22:43                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-27 10:12                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-26 16:18           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-26 18:39             ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-25 10:15     ` Pavel Machek
     [not found] <2HO0C-4xh-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <2I5b2-88s-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <2I5E5-6h-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <2I7Zd-1TK-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-09-25  1:05       ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-09-25 10:16         ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-10 18:17           ` Jan Rychter
2004-10-11 13:32             ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-11 14:53               ` Jan Rychter
2004-10-17 19:10                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-17 21:40                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-11  9:56           ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-10-11 14:59             ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-11 17:18               ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-10-11 19:58                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-10-12  8:55                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-13 17:29                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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