From: Jean-Luc Cooke <jlcooke@certainkey.com>
To: linux@horizon.com
Cc: jmorris@redhat.com, cryptoapi@lists.logix.cz, tytso@mit.edu,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL/PATCH] Fortuna PRNG in /dev/random
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:54:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040925145444.GW28317@certainkey.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040924214230.3926.qmail@science.horizon.com>
On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 09:42:30PM -0000, linux@horizon.com wrote:
> > What if I told the SHA-1 implementation in random.c right now is weaker
> > than those hashs in terms of collisions? The lack of padding in the
> > implementation is the cause. HASH("a\0\0\0\0...") == HASH("a") There
> > are billions of other examples.
>
> EXCUSE me?
...
> I could argue it's a design flaw to *include* the padding.
I was trying to point out a flaw in Ted's logic. He said "we've recently
discoverd these hashs are weak because we found collsions. Current
/dev/random doesn't care about this."
I certainly wasn't saying padding was a requirment. But I was trying to
point out that the SHA-1 implementaion crrently in /dev/random by design is
collision vulnerable. Collision resistance isn't a requirment for it's
purposes obviously.
Guess my pointing this out is a lost cause.
JLC
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-25 14:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-24 0:59 [PROPOSAL/PATCH] Fortuna PRNG in /dev/random linux
2004-09-24 2:34 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-24 6:19 ` linux
2004-09-24 21:42 ` linux
2004-09-25 14:54 ` Jean-Luc Cooke [this message]
2004-09-25 18:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-26 1:42 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-26 5:23 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-27 0:50 ` linux
2004-09-27 13:07 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-27 14:23 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-27 14:42 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-26 6:46 ` linux
2004-09-26 16:32 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-26 2:31 ` linux
2004-09-29 17:10 ` [PROPOSAL/PATCH 2] " Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-29 19:31 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-29 20:27 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-29 21:40 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-29 21:53 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-29 23:24 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-30 0:21 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-30 4:23 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-30 6:50 ` James Morris
2004-09-30 9:03 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-09-30 13:36 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-10-01 12:56 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-30 10:46 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-27 18:53 [PROPOSAL/PATCH] " Manfred Spraul
2004-09-27 19:45 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-28 0:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-28 2:24 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-28 13:46 ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-09-23 23:43 Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-24 4:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-24 12:54 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-24 17:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-24 17:59 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-24 20:44 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-09-24 21:34 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-25 14:51 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-24 18:43 ` James Morris
2004-09-24 19:09 ` Matt Mackall
2004-09-24 20:03 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-24 13:44 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-09-27 4:58 ` Theodore Ts'o
[not found] ` <20040927133203.GF28317@certainkey.com>
2004-09-27 14:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-27 15:19 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
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