From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ptep_establish/establish_pte needs set_pte_atomic and all set_pte must be written in asm
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 03:36:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040926013637.GU3309@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1096160383.18233.67.camel@gaston>
On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 10:59:43AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 10:46, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>
> > As far as the C language is concerned that *ptep = something can be
> > implemented with 8 writes of 1 byte each (or alternatively with an
> > assembler instruction that may make the written data visible not
> > atomically to other cpus, despite it was written with a single opcode,
> > similarly to what happens if you use incl without the lock prefix). I'm
> > not saying such instruction exists in ppc64, but the compiler is
> > definitely allowed to break the above. You can blame on the compiler to
> > be inefficient, but you can't blame on the compiler for the security
> > hazard it would generate. Only the kernel would be to blame if for
> > whatever reason a gcc version would be underoptimized.
>
> BTW, for your reading pleasure :)
>
> #define atomic_set(v,i) (((v)->counter) = (i))
>
> (asm-i386/atomic.h)
and then check this:
typedef struct { volatile int counter; } atomic_t;
^^^^^^^^
if the pte was at least volatile it would be a lot safer. C knows it
must not mess with volatile.
> And that's really far from beeing the 2 only cases where the kernel _relies_
> on a write of a simple type like int or long to an aligned location to be
> atomic. Almost all drivers manipulating DMA descriptors do that, jiffies
> is a good example too afaik, and more and more and more ... so if the
jiffies, writel/readl all volatile incidentally.
> compiler is breaking that up, I think the set_pte race is the least of
> our problems :)
the only one not volatile, or can you find more?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-26 1:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-25 15:54 ptep_establish/establish_pte needs set_pte_atomic and all set_pte must be written in asm Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-25 23:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-26 0:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-26 0:31 ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-26 0:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-26 0:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-26 1:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2004-09-26 5:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-26 20:30 ` Paul Mackerras
[not found] ` <20040926203640.GR2499@dualathlon.random>
2004-09-27 16:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-28 9:12 ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-26 0:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-26 1:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-26 5:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-26 15:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-26 14:41 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-26 15:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-25 23:44 ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-26 0:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-26 0:37 ` Rik van Riel
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