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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ptep_establish/establish_pte needs set_pte_atomic and all set_pte must be written in asm
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 03:36:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040926013637.GU3309@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1096160383.18233.67.camel@gaston>

On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 10:59:43AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 10:46, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
> > As far as the C language is concerned that *ptep = something can be
> > implemented with 8 writes of 1 byte each (or alternatively with an
> > assembler instruction that may make the written data visible not
> > atomically to other cpus, despite it was written with a single opcode,
> > similarly to what happens if you use incl without the lock prefix). I'm
> > not saying such instruction exists in ppc64, but the compiler is
> > definitely allowed to break the above. You can blame on the compiler to
> > be inefficient, but you can't blame on the compiler for the security
> > hazard it would generate. Only the kernel would be to blame if for
> > whatever reason a gcc version would be underoptimized.
> 
> BTW, for your reading pleasure :)
> 
> #define atomic_set(v,i)		(((v)->counter) = (i))
> 
> (asm-i386/atomic.h)

and then check this:

typedef struct { volatile int counter; } atomic_t;
		 ^^^^^^^^

if the pte was at least volatile it would be a lot safer. C knows it
must not mess with volatile.

> And that's really far from beeing the 2 only cases where the kernel _relies_
> on a write of a simple type like int or long to an aligned location to be
> atomic. Almost all drivers manipulating DMA descriptors do that, jiffies
> is a good example too afaik, and more and more and more ... so if the

jiffies, writel/readl all volatile incidentally.

> compiler is breaking that up, I think the set_pte race is the least of
> our problems :)

the only one not volatile, or can you find more?

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-26  1:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-25 15:54 ptep_establish/establish_pte needs set_pte_atomic and all set_pte must be written in asm Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-25 23:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-26  0:20   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-26  0:31     ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-26  0:46       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-26  0:59         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-26  1:36           ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2004-09-26  5:31             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-26 20:30           ` Paul Mackerras
     [not found]             ` <20040926203640.GR2499@dualathlon.random>
2004-09-27 16:41               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-28  9:12         ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-26  0:44     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-26  1:32       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-26  5:29         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-26 15:39           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-26 14:41       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-26 15:41         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-25 23:44 ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-26  0:31   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-26  0:37     ` Rik van Riel

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